devs attitude to players

[Lobselvith]

Agreed. People think that the company needs to cater to their every whim, even if it goes against the design vision of the content/game/whatever. As for the comment they are referring to, I do see many people complain about lag on something like Titan, but if it was SE's problem, why is it only those people lagging? And not everyone?

True, I've done Titan 100 times and never had a lag issue,
I think when these players die they like to blame it on lag, rather then there own lack of skill as a player to Dodge AOEs, and to not stand where they shouldn't stand.

But Instead they ask the devs to make it easier?!?
When they should take the time to improve at the game, instead of asking the Devs to make it easier.

really when ppl do stuff like this they hurt the game, and the other gamers that like the challenge.

the ppl need to learn to DODGE!!!!!

[Ryger7]

wall of uninformed text

God damit. Did you even check the thread? It's not a latency issue, even if most people refer to it as lag. Whatever the the problem is caused by, SE obviously has to take it seriously when it effects this many players. If the game works for you, then that's great! But please try to show some empathy towards the players that are experiencing issues and stop posting crap that doesn't add anything to the discussion. When uninformed players like yourself show up and claim there is no problem then it will probably just slow down the whole process of getting it solved for those of us who can barely play the game right now.

[astrobear]

lol OP, the lag isnt a bug, its a feature. working as intended

[Reaux]

if I get hit by something, it's because I was too slow in getting out of the red (even just barely making it out is too slow). If you're playing and literally standing behind something for a few seconds before it's cast is finished

There are some AoE's where the death is lag and has nothing to do with skill. In AK on Demon Wall it is very common for me to see people get pushed directly sideways and not have repel register till about 2 seconds AFTER it has been cast and you are already dodging the next set of attacks.

In Titan there have been moments where half of the party never sees the jump for Geocrush resulting in a party wipe when suddenly half the party dies to an invisible Titan fall, just to see him teleport on top of us. There were many times where myself or other party members were on the other side of Titan, never in the AoE for landslide as the target was someone else on the opposite side of the platform, and get pushed off anyway.

[Toranja]

I lag constantly whenever there's a handful of players around me. (...) Then again, sometimes I don't. I never had this problem during the Betas, and I only noticed it right after they fixed all of the errors in September.

I'll just quote myself again. Maybe it will register in someone's thick skull.

[Reaux]

Why do people seems to be like
- It's your ISP fault, deal with it
- the problem is ON YOUR SIDE, not the server
- You suck, dodge better, learn to play with delay
- etc etc

God damn, I've played various MMORPG, with all theirs mechanic, I never see a game where dodging is so hard as this one. Learn to play with delay? Great, this is the first game where delay are considered to be a part of game mechanic...

For serious. I played TERA as a Warrior tank and Priest at max level. I want people to go play that then tell me I need to L2D...pretty sure that games mechanics made me a pro at it to the point that other games feel slow.

[Shaone]

the ppl need to learn to DODGE!!!!!

Lucky you for never having lag or lag spikes.

Been working through issues with my ISP, had problems during peak time, and they've completed the traffic priority upgrade. It's now OK most days, but there have been times it's so bad I will be dead on everyones screen (verified on teamspeak) but alive and standing on mine for a full 15-20 seconds, instacast plumes on titan, invisible bosses etc. Oh fun one is when titan starts turning just before a landslide and stops, you know landslide is coming even though it's not showing, but titan is locked on an angle so it's safe to assume that's where it's going to come? Nope, then it suddenly show with no cast bar and instantly knock back.

But I wouldn't suggest the difficulty should be adjusted because of it, it's fine when I'm not lagging. Trouble is you can be fine in city and lagging in instance, so now I'll test with a sprint when I get in... if it takes 3-4 seconds for the echo back from the server and the status effect to appear then I know it's pointless trying titan.

I don't think it needs a nerf, I'm doing the logical thing which is working through the issues with my ISP, sending tracerts, and warning people in game if it's a bad evening. (I'm on 70 meg FTTC with traffic priority addons etc, it's really not a general problem with my connection, just this particular route is having trouble, and going on a 22-25 hop doubling back route). They have another week or two to get it fixed or I'll pay the early termination and I'll switch ISP.

Lag denial and saying that anyone who has lag issues can't dodge is as bad as blaming camera angle.

[Lobselvith]

Lucky you for never having lag or lag spikes.

Been working through issues with my ISP, had problems during peak time, and they've completed the traffic priority upgrade. It's now OK most days, but there have been times it's so bad I will be dead on everyones screen (verified on teamspeak) but alive and standing on mine for a full 15-20 seconds,

have you tried scanning your PC for viruses, and spyware/ Trojans?
this could be a issue also.

[Mezolitik]

It's incredible how fiercely some people will insist that their experience is the only experience.

[AdvancedWind]

I play from South America. My ping is certainly double of what most of you outside Europe get when playing this game, on top of the actual known 0.3sec server delay. I fight Titan while talking on linkshell chat and eating. Oh, and I should mention I do zoom out the camera.

IE: Yoshi-P is right, "get gud".