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    Quote Originally Posted by Theref View Post
    Great thing about that gif is you can clearly see the person is standing in the landslide. The delay for moving out of area of effect abilities works the same EVERYWHERE. If you're still in the red when the cast finishes, you're gonna get hit, regardless of if you aren't there when the animation plays. If you're ever expecting it to work any other way, you're getting your hopes up for nothing, because the game wasn't designed to work that way. Learn how to play WITH the delay, rather than blaming "lag".
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Great thing about that gif is you can clearly see the person is standing in the landslide. The delay for moving out of area of effect abilities works the same EVERYWHERE. If you're still in the red when the cast finishes, you're gonna get hit, regardless of if you aren't there when the animation plays. If you're ever expecting it to work any other way, you're getting your hopes up for nothing, because the game wasn't designed to work that way. Learn how to play WITH the delay, rather than blaming "lag".
    watch this!, Watch this!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theref View Post
    watch this!, Watch this!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0 ?
    If you're honestly thinking I'm saying that lag doesn't exist, then I suggest you work on your reading comprehension skills. Obviously lag does exist, and it can be responsible for many a wipe, especially when paired with the already intended delay. I can say however after watching that video, not once have I ever experienced anything like that, if I get hit by something, it's because I was too slow in getting out of the red (even just barely making it out is too slow). If you're playing and literally standing behind something for a few seconds before it's cast is finished, there is something wrong on YOUR end. (And when I say YOUR I mean YOU or YOUR ISPs)
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    If you're honestly thinking I'm saying that lag doesn't exist, then I suggest you work on your reading comprehension skills. Obviously lag does exist, and it can be responsible for many a wipe, especially when paired with the already intended delay. I can say however after watching that video, not once have I ever experienced anything like that, if I get hit by something, it's because I was too slow in getting out of the red (even just barely making it out is too slow). If you're playing and literally standing behind something for a few seconds before it's cast is finished, there is something wrong on YOUR end. (And when I say YOUR I mean YOU or YOUR IPs)
    My end? Then why it only happen on FFXIV? I played GW2, TSW, w/e, I never have issue like this, dodging aoe.

    The vid is not mine, it also happens to many of our friends here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heh View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theref View Post
    My end? Then why it only happen on FFXIV? I played GW2, TSW, w/e, I never have issue like this, dodging aoe.

    The vid is not mine, it also happens to many of our friends here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.
    I wasn't talking about YOU specifically, I was saying "you" in regards to anyone who is experiencing issues like in that video.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    if I get hit by something, it's because I was too slow in getting out of the red (even just barely making it out is too slow). If you're playing and literally standing behind something for a few seconds before it's cast is finished
    There are some AoE's where the death is lag and has nothing to do with skill. In AK on Demon Wall it is very common for me to see people get pushed directly sideways and not have repel register till about 2 seconds AFTER it has been cast and you are already dodging the next set of attacks.

    In Titan there have been moments where half of the party never sees the jump for Geocrush resulting in a party wipe when suddenly half the party dies to an invisible Titan fall, just to see him teleport on top of us. There were many times where myself or other party members were on the other side of Titan, never in the AoE for landslide as the target was someone else on the opposite side of the platform, and get pushed off anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Great thing about that gif is you can clearly see the person is standing in the landslide. The delay for moving out of area of effect abilities works the same EVERYWHERE. If you're still in the red when the cast finishes, you're gonna get hit, regardless of if you aren't there when the animation plays. If you're ever expecting it to work any other way, you're getting your hopes up for nothing, because the game wasn't designed to work that way. Learn how to play WITH the delay, rather than blaming "lag".
    So we should learn to play with a defective system instead of demanding 2007 responsiveness in a 2013 game? Gotcha, it all makes sense now. We are wrong for expecting gaming performance to improve as time goes on. Instead we should have been expecting it to regress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Great thing about that gif is you can clearly see the person is standing in the landslide. The delay for moving out of area of effect abilities works the same EVERYWHERE. If you're still in the red when the cast finishes, you're gonna get hit, regardless of if you aren't there when the animation plays. If you're ever expecting it to work any other way, you're getting your hopes up for nothing, because the game wasn't designed to work that way. Learn how to play WITH the delay, rather than blaming "lag".
    Watch it at normal speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4TM1fkCg

    We learned to play with the delay in 1.0. Please tell me why we still should in 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Great thing about that gif is you can clearly see the person is standing in the landslide. The delay for moving out of area of effect abilities works the same EVERYWHERE. If you're still in the red when the cast finishes, you're gonna get hit, regardless of if you aren't there when the animation plays. If you're ever expecting it to work any other way, you're getting your hopes up for nothing, because the game wasn't designed to work that way. Learn how to play WITH the delay, rather than blaming "lag".
    lmao WOW are you fricking serious? Can you get anymore of a fanboy than this? That is just... wow. Learn to play with the delay... Gotcha cap'n!
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