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    Brises's Avatar
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    Brises Ravenheart
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    If learning to adjust to lag and move preemptively, is going to be the standard for how to play the game, then people are going to have to try and fail enough times to learn. Therefore people will also need to be patient and stop saying, "Quit standing in AOE!" I don't care how many times you watch it on Youtube. A video will never represent the specific conditions you experience in the fight. And it will change at different times and different days.
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    Nim Loki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    If learning to adjust to lag and move preemptively, is going to be the standard for how to play the game, then people are going to have to try and fail enough times to learn
    That's exactly what progression is. Anybody expecting to 1 shot a fight the first time you go there does not understand how to play an MMO. You're SUPPOSED to fail, over and over, until you get it down.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    That's exactly what progression is. Anybody expecting to 1 shot a fight the first time you go there does not understand how to play an MMO. You're SUPPOSED to fail, over and over, until you get it down.
    This is funny. haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    That's exactly what progression is. Anybody expecting to 1 shot a fight the first time you go there does not understand how to play an MMO. You're SUPPOSED to fail, over and over, until you get it down.
    Who said anything about one shot? I'm talking about people who see someone in AOE but the person doesn't. There are people out there who are not patient with wiping. There needs to be some understanding of the learning process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    There are people out there who are not patient with wiping. There needs to be some understanding of the learning process.
    Agreed. People using the duty finder should never expect a 1 shot, or even 2 shot. If you're using the DF, then you should assume nobody has been there before. If you want a pre-made group to minimize screw-ups, then ask your FC or friends.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    someone send yoshi to australia for awhile and force him to play on NA/EU servers.
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    Lag is not SE's fault, if it was, everyone would have it. I don't have it. Stop blaming the game for having a bad internet connection.
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    Altir Averos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Lag is not SE's fault, if it was, everyone would have it. I don't have it. Stop blaming the game for having a bad internet connection.
    Yes it can be SE's fault. Especially with over crowded servers. I know for a fact my connection is fine. I average 73 ping and have a 144mb/s connection. So tell me I have a bad connection and that it's not an overloaded server. Too many people on a server causes strain, servers can only handle a limited amount of players, you fill that up and then some and you'll have problems like lag. Sure some of it may be people's connections but it's not the case in all situations of lag. So don't go around blanket statementing that it is. Some places are better then others on a server because there aren't as many connections in that part of the server. Next time learn about what you're talking about before going off and shouting your fool head off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Yes it can be SE's fault. Especially with over crowded servers. I know for a fact my connection is fine. I average 73 ping and have a 144mb/s connection. So tell me I have a bad connection and that it's not an overloaded server. Too many people on a server causes strain, servers can only handle a limited amount of players, you fill that up and then some and you'll have problems like lag. Sure some of it may be people's connections but it's not the case in all situations of lag. So don't go around blanket statementing that it is. Some places are better then others on a server because there aren't as many connections in that part of the server. Next time learn about what you're talking about before going off and shouting your fool head off.
    Of course there's a lot of things that affect connection stability. Overcrowded servers are one thing. Pretty sure my server is one of the crowded ones, though. But when you have these outliers that get hit 5 seconds after dodging an attack while the rest of the party is fine, I refuse to believe it's the game's fault. Now, that's just what my common sense says. How can it be SE's fault if a connection decides to travel through bad hops or infrastructure, or if the connection location has bad network to begin with?

    If the connection is fine and there's still a dodging problem...
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    Jarrod Genesis
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    I've noticed a bit of a delay with these sort of attacks, and I have a 50mb/s internet plan so I know it's definitely not me.
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