Are you satisfied with this game?

[Sunarie]

If we're doing comparisons... trying to play FFXI well after it launched, on my own, was a horrible, horrible experience. Seemed I needed a group for most the content, but since I was new/didn't know where to look I was looked down upon for asking simple questions. I realize that's the fault of the community and not necessarily the game, but it left a really bad taste in my mouth, and I didn't play the game long.

This I am satisfied with as far as launch goes. There are some things I hope they improve upon, and at least one thing I consider game breaking and hope they'll fix (positional check every .3 seconds isn't acceptable). Other than that though, it has kept me entertained and interested more than many other MMO titles I've tried out in a long while. I'm willing to stick around and see what future patches hold.

[busta]

If we're doing comparisons... trying to play FFXI well after it launched, on my own, was a horrible, horrible experience. Seemed I needed a group for most the content

That's the point of an mmorpg. You play together with other people. Modern mmorpgs have ruined what it meant to be an mmo. You can do almost everything in this game solo. Why not play a single player game at that point? It seems people today just want some Diablo clones with a chat box.

FFXI was a near perfect experience at NA launch. And CoP made it pure perfection.

[Bizniztyme]

You can do almost everything in this game solo. Why not play a single player game at that point?

Are we playing the same game? How the hell you're doing everything solo? You beat all the dungeons by yourself? If you're trying to say noone talks in groups, that's the problem with the people and not the game isnt it?

[busta]

Are we playing the same game? How the hell you're doing everything solo? You beat all the dungeons by yourself? If you're trying to say noone talks in groups, that's the problem with the people and not the game isnt it?

Are there anything besides dungeons that you do as a group? I mean as a personal group that you intentionally form. So that doesn't include FATEs. Dungeons are a pretty small part of the game. With that ONE exception of dungeons the game heavily encourages solo play for everything. There's no major benefit for grouping in anything. That's what made FFXI so special. It took a lot of effort and time to do things and it strongly encouraged party play for literally everything. You can't even do your main story missions as a party in this game. How can you even call the game an mmo at that point?

[Sunarie]

That's the point of an mmorpg. You play together with other people. Modern mmorpgs have ruined what it meant to be an mmo. You can do almost everything in this game solo. Why not play a single player game at that point? It seems people today just want some Diablo clones with a chat box.

FFXI was a near perfect experience at NA launch. And CoP made it pure perfection.

You conveniently left out the part of that quote where I said I tried seeking help and getting groups only to find the community terrible, hateful, and unhelpful. The needing to group thing was only a problem because the community was god awful.

[busta]

You conveniently left out the part of that quote where I said I tried seeking help and getting groups only to find the community terrible, hateful, and unhelpful. The needing to group thing was only a problem because the community was god awful.

The community was amazing and helpful to me. I got every question of mine answered instantly. I was in many social linkshells that were always extremely helpful.

I left that part out because I wasn't addressing that part with my reply.

[Sunarie]

The community was amazing and helpful to me. I got every question of mine answered instantly. I was in many social linkshells that were always extremely helpful.

I left that part out because I wasn't addressing that part with my reply.

And you probably also joined when the game first came out, when the community is generally far more friendly as a whole, and accepting of newbie mistakes. I joined when it had been out for probably a good year or so, when everyone is suppose to know their jobs and new players are rare. That part had everything to do with the part that you quoted, so electing to keep it out is misquoting me entirely. I am not a fan of MMOs where you can solo literally everything. I like a mix of stuff I can do. I hate being forced to group constantly, but I also hate being able to solo all the content. So I'm very glad they have dungeons as part of the story requirements, but that grouping isn't a requirement for everything.

I'm only arguing with you because you took what I said out of context by cutting the quote off where you did.