@ Vorth Asterlazindril

[vorthex]

So, unless I am misunderstanding how melding works (I understand the last materias to meld are harder to do) its still possible that the Vanya hat may be even BETTER than Mythology hat for damage.

I am quite interested in hearing as to what you have to say about this, Zanon since your claim is its not end-game gear.

[vorthex]

IN REPLY TO GLIM:

This is EXACTLY what I'm saying and I got BOOTED out of the Cactuar endgame linkshell for claiming this. There is a point where a certain amount of accuracy can be sacrificed below cap at the expense of getting more damage and can result in higher overall dps even though your accuracy is below the "cap". THATS ALL IVE BEEN SAYING. And they raged their faces off at me for it. I didnt say accuracy isnt necessary, I said theres a mathematical point where you CAN sacrifice some of it for other stats and still do more damage. Its not "KING" in the sense that it will always be better until you hit %99.99 percent. That is NOT true.

[Zenaku]

But in a serious note i'll would add two ACC IV to your head and 3 crit IV to your body. Is not enough ACC to do coil with even at 410 i was missing my blizzard 3 which then turn out i could not go back to fire due to no MP. So really you need at least 420+ACC so you don't miss that much in coil. Also ACC food would help a lot in turn 4 where it really needed. Not trying to start anything here just saying your ACC is very low for coil if that really is your acc that show in your profile.

Also Vanya is not endgame? for turn 1-4 you need darklight and Vanya with meld is better then darklight for the DPS you need for BLM. Also the vanya hat with two IV acc would also help a lot with acc issue in coil. Sure vanya is not great for Turn 5 but to be good enough to do turn 1-4 every week to get geared for turn 5 i would say yes it's good.

[vorthex]

Zenaku,

I have not melded my gear yet, had been helping other friends with coil runs and getting them their relic, and was leveling up a GSM to 46 which is almost 50. I have tomes saved up for Vanya gloves that I think I'll get, but I just joined Goblin because of this bs on cactuar. I'll have to compare the difference between Vanya gloves and Darklight but I think its more of an investment to get Vanya because you can convert it after you are done with it? I understand my accuracy this second is not good enough to do coil runs but I've been dealing with crap lately and helping friends.

Also in reply to Vanya is not good for Turn 5? Why not? Just remeld it with some Accuracy if you need a higher cap for 5.

[glim]

Zenaku,

I have not melded my gear yet, had been helping other friends with coil runs and getting them their relic, and was leveling up a GSM to 46 which is almost 50. I have tomes saved up for Vanya gloves that I think I'll get, but I just joined Goblin because of this bs on cactuar. I'll have to compare the difference between Vanya gloves and Darklight but I think its more of an investment to get Vanya because you can convert it after you are done with it? I understand my accuracy this second is not good enough to do coil runs but I've been dealing with crap lately and helping friends.

Also in reply to Vanya is not good for Turn 5? Why not? Just remeld it with some Accuracy if you need a higher cap for 5.

the jewelries are really nice, and you could theoritically cap all 3 stats (crit/det/spd) using only III materias, for jewelries and belt, caps are crit/speed/acc = 12 , determination = 8, int = capped , and for ring and earrings, the crafted ones are better if you need the accuracy.

for bigger pieces (chest,pants,hat,boots maybe gloves) you'll need IV materias if you ever want to cap the stats on them, but you could just skip trying to cap all 3 stats and just get III materias and focus on capping only crit/acc/det since spellspeed's value is lacking. I think even piety for BLM is better than SS.

[Zenaku]

Zenaku,

I have not melded my gear yet, had been helping other friends with coil runs and getting them their relic, and was leveling up a GSM to 46 which is almost 50. I have tomes saved up for Vanya gloves that I think I'll get, but I just joined Goblin because of this bs on cactuar. I'll have to compare the difference between Vanya gloves and Darklight but I think its more of an investment to get Vanya because you can convert it after you are done with it? I understand my accuracy this second is not good enough to do coil runs but I've been dealing with crap lately and helping friends.

Also in reply to Vanya is not good for Turn 5? Why not? Just remeld it with some Accuracy if you need a higher cap for 5.

And ya i understand if the cost of the IV is anywhere near as high as in my world i would understand why you have not yet meld then.

Turn 5 you need a lot of Vit and lot of stats and Vanya/darklight don't have the Vit/stats you need to do it without issue. There a lot of things that can one shot you. You just need a lot of HP and DPS to do it without issue and even now no one have won it only people who bug it. So even with meld you lose one or the other but with allgan/AF gear you get both without getting one or the other.

Also why even make a topic like this on a public forums seem like a waste of time seeing how the GM may end up taking it down.

[vorthex]

I just think its sad, that I was treated so poorly on Cactuar by the endgame players for theorycrafting and presenting a debate and asking their reason for their beliefs and all they could do is insult me and say I'm a troll and then boot me from the endgame linkshell.

This type of behaviour should be frowned upon and to be honest, I wanted everyone to know that Kyp Zahn on Cactuar (I believe hes the leader of the guild) and his followers did this to me unjustly. When you are treated like that for no reason you seek a sense of justice, and I feel like the endgame players of FFXIV should know that this scummy person exists. No respect for the Cactuar endgame players.

[Zenaku]

I just think its sad, that I was treated so poorly on Cactuar by the endgame players for theorycrafting and presenting a debate and asking their reason for their beliefs and all they could do is insult me and say I'm a troll and then boot me from the endgame linkshell.

This type of behaviour should be frowned upon and to be honest, I wanted everyone to know that Kyp Zahn on Cactuar (I believe hes the leader of the guild) and his followers did this to me unjustly. When you are treated like that for no reason you seek a sense of justice, and I feel like the endgame players of FFXIV should know that this scummy person exists. No respect for the Cactuar endgame players.

For many people who run endgame they don't like wasting there time. If you suck you get kicked or put somewhere else and get someone better. Also in a way the OP is right you don't have enough acc and you not even near the point that is good enough to do coil. If you miss with blizzard even once in coil you need more acc.If you miss not even if you do more dps going to help if you can't get full mp back when you do blizzard 3 you have to waste time to cast it again. This is why i ended up getting better gear for coil.

At the end of the day if you don't like the FC you in just leave and find other or if you dislike the world overall you could have left for free.

[Eldari]

To clear up some confusion...

He was kicked from the LINKSHELL for being rude and trolling people. He was never in the FC, and it had nothing to do with accuracy or the lack of. The fact that he transferred off to low population server and then still proceeded to try and troll the linkshell on this forum post should tell any prospective FC or Linkshell on Goblin just about anything they need to know about this player.

[Shadowzanon]

Yes Vanya gear is perfect for coils, but my point was that vanya is obtainable without needing to even enter a dungeon, it does not mean you are a pro at end game cuz you have it. Having a full crafted set, a relic wep and two pieces of myth jewelry does not equate having experience. it can easly mean you just had alot of money to burn. People will approach acc in different ways, if they can cap it with food then they have to eat at every attempt, if they die, usually its a wipe anyhow (especially in turn 4 where its utterly hard to recover from losing even 1 dps) Or they can hit the cap via normal means and use food to up dps as in my case i use buttons in a basket or any other food that gives me both crit and determination.