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    Level 50 Quested Tools vs Luminary, why isn't there a difference?

    I've been meaning to ask for awhile and I would like some feedback about this but does anyone else agree that the Luminary Tools should be ever so slightly better than the level 50 quested Tools. As it stands right now you can spend 10 min to buy all the items you need for DoH/DoL quests and get your blue level 50 Tool, or you can spend weeks (for anyone not spending all their time) getting your Luminary weapon. I posted some screenshots below to get my points across, I feel that Luminary should be slightly better, not much, but just a lil better than the level 50 quested tools.






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    Odsarzol Que
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    1. The Luminary Tools only exist to keep the people happy from 1.0 that ended up getting one.
    2. There's no difference because they only exist in the first place to keep DoL/DoH on equal footing with DoM/DoW in terms of "Relic weapons".
    3. The Achievement ones are something, as stated by SE you'll eventually unlock just crafting normally (1.0 era) but as we know people decided they had to "grind for it", which is partly true since they were released after most people botted leveled crafts in 1.0, but newer players were obtaining them by simply crafting gear throughout their career.

    Overall, Yoshi said this game was going to be easier and more accessible, so handing out 1.0 items essentially is part of that accessibility change.
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    Sure but why not make the Crafting Tools have say +110 Craftsmanship and +63 Control or something, just a very small increase, I'd be happy with that.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Same reason why all achievement items aren't better than what one can get through quest/dungeons. It's because they are achievements, a trophy item not something that is needed but rather something that just shows you achieved said achievement. If they made an achievement item better than what can be gained through quest then said item would no longer be something which is seen as an achievement but rather something you have to achieve in order to remain competitive.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Said it before, I'll say it again. Luminaries should be given a way to be upgraded, just as relics did.
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    So then what's the point of giving an item at all if its just for achievement? You could just leave it at the Title in that case.
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    Raldo Volca
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    They are identical in stats so that 1.0 players didn't have too large of an advantage over new players. They already have a head start on gil/materials/gear/levels/GCseals/GCranks/etc., the last thing they need is another advantage of best-in-slot gear that takes a ton of time, energy, and money to obtain.

    Before you ask, no, I'm not a butthurt newbie. I have three luminaries myself from 1.0 that I wasted far too many hours obtaining, but this is the only explanation that makes sense to me. I was mad when I first found out, but I've come to terms with it, and prefer it this way now.
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    Last edited by Raldo; 10-22-2013 at 01:23 PM.

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    It's cause 80% of players who got luminaries used programs to obtain them. I'm pretty sure SE is well aware of that.
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    The luminaries are different. They look awesome when you use them. What you are getting with the achievement are cool points, nothing more.
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    When the world was young, the Sun bestowed upon me his crown; always will I light your darkest hour.

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    I don't have any of the Luminary yet, I don't really have any reason to get them either if they are the same stats.
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