starting to wonder whats the point in this game

[darkstarpoet1]

Except for the quit when there are first time player, I can't see any of your points that make the game "unplayable".
Even with the quitter problem, I doubt it happens often enough to make the game unplayable.

the quitter issue is actually pretty bad.

for example: i sat in df all day saturday for titan just for some additional rotation experience. in the 16 hours i was in duty finder i only had 2 groups that was willing to actually work towards getting better. the rest either left before the initial engage or after the first wipe. to sit in queue for 30+ min to get into a group only to have the group quit before even engaging titan because a whm is sitting at 3100 hp is pretty bad. it's even worse when thinking you sat in df for 30 min for a 1 min party only to have to leave and queue again for another 30+ min.

[Lisotte]

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I agree the quitter issue is aggravating, but when you're waiting around in mor dhona for your AK/WP queue to pop you can look at the shouts and sometimes there's shouts for titan not necessarily asking for experienced players (or practice groups). Considering I'd also watched multiple videos describing the fights and had the patterns open in notepad next to the game window, and the group would give several tries I was able to get the experience for the fight. Not saying it's necessary to have full DL for the fight, but if you do you can get into more shout groups easier.

[darkstarpoet1]

I agree the quitter issue is aggravating, but when you're waiting around in mor dhona for your AK/WP queue to pop you can look at the shouts and sometimes there's shouts for titan not necessarily asking for experienced players (or practice groups). Considering I'd also watched multiple videos describing the fights and had the patterns open in notepad next to the game window, and the group would give several tries I was able to get the experience for the fight. Not saying it's necessary to have full DL for the fight, but if you do you can get into more shout groups easier.

i wasn't saying it was unplayable to do other things. i was just commenting on that one issue of rage quitters in df. as a healer or tank the duty finder is a godsend, but as a dd it's horror. i mentioned that day because i was capped on tomes for the week and was specifically trying to get into a titan run for extra practice on my blm rotations. blm's are quite tricky in that fight to get good dps in so i want all the extra practice i can get. as far as gear goes i have no issues there as right now i have 3 pieces of quint melded vanya and a 4th piece that's quad melded. the rest of my gear is dl or alagan. sure it has room to improve which i will be working towards once i move over to smn as my main, but for titan it's fine since i'm not planning to use it as my coil gear.

i wouldn't even be upset if they gave the option to kick a member like the whm that joined in full af1 that has no chance to beat the content or even for the group to exit the dungeon as a whole and stay queue'd together until enough members filled the party again. just the way it's setup is pretty bad currently.

in other words for me with plenty of other things i can work on and time already invested in my char it's an inconvenience, but i can see where sitting for 16 hours and getting nothing done can be considered unplayable for someone else with much less time invested.

[Ri_ri]

the quitter issue is actually pretty bad.

for example: i sat in df all day saturday for titan just for some additional rotation experience. in the 16 hours i was in duty finder i only had 2 groups that was willing to actually work towards getting better. the rest either left before the initial engage or after the first wipe. to sit in queue for 30+ min to get into a group only to have the group quit before even engaging titan because a whm is sitting at 3100 hp is pretty bad. it's even worse when thinking you sat in df for 30 min for a 1 min party only to have to leave and queue again for another 30+ min.

Damn this makes me sad... I guess that's what happens when you expect the japanese behaviour in the west.