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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Is that really the BiS? I think SS is very important for monk as stated by Yiell, its iinevitable you will lose GL in raids so the faster youget them back up the more damage you do. Not sure. Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?
    The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

    I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

    I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.
    Well, Selene is 30% increase so the more SS you have the better! Honestly it's all opinion, but I stand by Determination followed by whatever skill speed you want while feeling comfortable in your rotation. Crit last for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiji View Post
    Well, Selene is 30% increase so the more SS you have the better! Honestly it's all opinion, but I stand by Determination followed by whatever skill speed you want while feeling comfortable in your rotation. Crit last for me.
    It's only "opinion" until everything gets properly calculated and simulated. Then there will be a clear hierarchy of stats. All information thus far has shown that SS gives the lowest return by a considerable margin.
    Crit and determination is up in the air, but most of the stat calculators put crit ahead. There is an error of margin, but it's becoming less and less as people perfect the algorithms.

    Stats are math, and math is not opinionated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    It's only "opinion" until everything gets properly calculated and simulated. Then there will be a clear hierarchy of stats. All information thus far has shown that SS gives the lowest return by a considerable margin.
    Crit and determination is up in the air, but most of the stat calculators put crit ahead. There is an error of margin, but it's becoming less and less as people perfect the algorithms.

    Stats are math, and math is not opinionated.
    Stats are math but often they are not applied to real situations. Simulations don't properly calculate fight mechanics, so they can show the correct stats for a "tank and spank" or target dummy fight. These typically don't exist.

    Not saying you are wrong, I'm just not 100% sold on the answers yet
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