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Sujet : Best Monk Set?

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    Reina Tel'a
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50

    Best Monk Set?

    Maybe one day when there is better theorycrafting this will be disproven, but for now, with my arbitrary weights, this appears to be the best?

    Monk
    Rank: 1
    • Weapon - Allagan Baghnakhs
    • Head - Melee Circlet
    • Chest - Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    • Hands - Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    • Waist - Allagan Tassets of Striking
    • Legs - Melee Gaskins
    • Feet - Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    • Neck - Allagan Choker of Maiming
    • Ear - Allagan Earrings of Maiming
    • Wrist - Allagan Bracelets of Maiming
    • Ring - Allagan Ring of Maiming
    • Ring - Allagan Ring of Striking
    Accuracy: 132 Determination: 84 Critical Hit Rate: 166 Skill Speed: 32

    The relic set comes in at:
    Accuracy: 133 Determination: 81 Critical Hit Rate: 144 Skill Speed: 58
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    Kit Tinkerton
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    Lamia
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    Chevalier dragon Lv 100
    I was heading in the direction of a strong skill speed and determination set while also making sure to hit the accuracy caps through gear and proper food.

    I haven't been able to find a reliable source for stat weights for monks due to the mysterious nature of theorycrafting in this game. Some monks hate skillspeed and claim it is "worthless" (even though it has the highest amount of it on gear vs det which has the lowest for example). I'm not sure which set I'll use
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    I personaly think crit is worthless, you'll rely on a higher "chance" to do more damage while skill speed is consistent, sure there are encounters where you have to get away from your target but some people just don't concider, that once you get used to the encounter you can maximize your uptime on the boss where skill speed starts to shine.
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    Reina Tel'a
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    Skill Speed is consistent yes, but playing to the law of large numbers you get a higher return on points spent on crit than you do on points spent in skill speed.
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    Lethal Skill
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    Sargatanas
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    Surineur Lv 70
    Why not go for both Crit and Skill Speed? That's What I've been doing.
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    Yiell Lavande
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    skill speed is needed in end game dungeons since you move alot. Loosing GL stacks are unavoidable.
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    Chaosprime Zero
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    Odin
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    Pugiliste Lv 70
    Is that really the BiS? I think SS is very important for monk as stated by Yiell, its iinevitable you will lose GL in raids so the faster youget them back up the more damage you do. Not sure. Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?
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    Shi Ji
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    Élémentaliste Lv 50
    The thing is SS is important in that you need to reach a certain amount so that your rotation is comfortable and there is more room for breaks (especially in coil fights to move). I never really understood why people would take crit over Determination UNLESS you had a ability that procced off of a crit. Monk has no abilities like that so I would rather choose Determination > Skill Speed (to a certain amount) > Crit
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Citation Envoyé par KaosPrimeZero Voir le message
    Is that really the BiS? I think SS is very important for monk as stated by Yiell, its iinevitable you will lose GL in raids so the faster youget them back up the more damage you do. Not sure. Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?
    The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

    I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.
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    Shi Ji
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    Élémentaliste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Allyrion Voir le message
    The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

    I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.
    Well, Selene is 30% increase so the more SS you have the better! Honestly it's all opinion, but I stand by Determination followed by whatever skill speed you want while feeling comfortable in your rotation. Crit last for me.
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