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    Best Monk Set?

    Maybe one day when there is better theorycrafting this will be disproven, but for now, with my arbitrary weights, this appears to be the best?

    Monk
    Rank: 1
    • Weapon - Allagan Baghnakhs
    • Head - Melee Circlet
    • Chest - Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    • Hands - Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    • Waist - Allagan Tassets of Striking
    • Legs - Melee Gaskins
    • Feet - Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    • Neck - Allagan Choker of Maiming
    • Ear - Allagan Earrings of Maiming
    • Wrist - Allagan Bracelets of Maiming
    • Ring - Allagan Ring of Maiming
    • Ring - Allagan Ring of Striking
    Accuracy: 132 Determination: 84 Critical Hit Rate: 166 Skill Speed: 32

    The relic set comes in at:
    Accuracy: 133 Determination: 81 Critical Hit Rate: 144 Skill Speed: 58
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    I was heading in the direction of a strong skill speed and determination set while also making sure to hit the accuracy caps through gear and proper food.

    I haven't been able to find a reliable source for stat weights for monks due to the mysterious nature of theorycrafting in this game. Some monks hate skillspeed and claim it is "worthless" (even though it has the highest amount of it on gear vs det which has the lowest for example). I'm not sure which set I'll use
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    I personaly think crit is worthless, you'll rely on a higher "chance" to do more damage while skill speed is consistent, sure there are encounters where you have to get away from your target but some people just don't concider, that once you get used to the encounter you can maximize your uptime on the boss where skill speed starts to shine.
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    Skill Speed is consistent yes, but playing to the law of large numbers you get a higher return on points spent on crit than you do on points spent in skill speed.
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    Why not go for both Crit and Skill Speed? That's What I've been doing.
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    skill speed is needed in end game dungeons since you move alot. Loosing GL stacks are unavoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yiell View Post
    skill speed is needed in end game dungeons since you move alot. Loosing GL stacks are unavoidable.
    Thats true to some extent, but the returns on skill speed just don't make it viable. 100 skill speed will give you 4% haste whereas 100 crit will give more than 8% critical chance. (also TP starvation is a thing in coil)

    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?
    It was relic weapon only, all other gear was included.

    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Allagan leg is way better than AF2. Monk never had acc issue in coil.
    This is a set of gear, not a single piece. The program I wrote to generate this takes into account every permutation of gear choice and weighs them to determine the best set.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xell View Post
    This gives us a total of 469 accuracy, enough to cap off with food, 488 str, 490 crit, 301 det, and 373 skill speed. Who knows if my math is correct. I much prefer Det and Crit to skill speed.
    The only sets that were considered were those that provide a minimum of 131 accuracy, as capping with food has already been found to be a worse choice than being capped and using other foods to boost stats. Also, why are you counting strength? You are aware that allagan and af2 provide identical stat points, right?
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    Last edited by Aeoliana; 10-23-2013 at 04:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeoliana View Post
    The only sets that were considered were those that provide a minimum of 131 accuracy, as capping with food has already been found to be a worse choice than being capped and using other foods to boost stats. Also, why are you counting strength? You are aware that allagan and af2 provide identical stat points, right?
    Haha, yeah. It was silly of me to include str.

    As for the food, I guess I didn't look very deeply into that. I agree, buttons are better than accuracy food. I would then swap in the monk AF2 chest for 10 extra accuracy. Pre-food this would give us 479 acc, 466 crit, 301 det, and 397 skill speed. Post food it would be 479 acc, 474 crit, 316 det, and 397 skill speed. Essentially just swapping out some crit for more determination.
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    Its better to just use the raw stats off the gear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeoliana View Post
    Its better to just use the raw stats off the gear...
    Sorry. 138 Accuracy, 115 crit, 99 det, 56 SS. Pre food. Comparable to your 2nd set, that's +5acc(Irrelevant if 131 hits the cap) -29crit, +15det, -2SS.

    I guess it's hard to say what's actually better (unless the stat weights are correct, which I'm not sure they are). I prefer det, but probably not quite 2:1 over crit. I concede my set, I prefer yours. Actually I prefer your first with 32 SS.
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