Best Monk Set?

[Rhained]

Any monk worth his salt will get SS to 1.99/2.00 GCD so that you can do both side and back without losing damage buff from Twin Snakes and not losing your GL stacks as well as buildup to 3x That is why Skillspeed is more valuable in my opinion than crit or det. Right now I keep my skillspeed up to 1.99 GCD and then try to stack crit (because everywhere I've read crit is the better option and Det is garbage) while keeping accuracy capped. Now I wouldn't mind going Skillspeed (to 1.99 GCD), Det, Accuracy, If there was some definitive proof that Determination is actually useful. Anyone out there with some about Determination/Crit?

"Twin Snakes, Increased damage duration has been extended from 12 to 15 seconds."

yea, skill speed isnt needed at all in 2.1

It helps a little in building the first 3 stacks but thats about it.

Woops didnt realise someone had allrdy replied;P

[dragonflie]

The new GL3 boost to 24% will affect our speed as well, so some abjustment is in order.

EDIT: Nvm, I just reread the info, it's only to dmg it seems.

[ChinBin]

I'm not using stat weights. Without actual testing then this is all theory. The reason many people are now willing to abandon skill speed stacking is because the duration of twin snakes has been increased from 12 seconds to 15. This means that less skill speed is required to not lose that buff. As for keeping up GL, this isn't hard to do even with low skill speed assuming you can stay in melee.

As for det vs crit, crit just has a better return. 1 str = 6.89 det. Det stacking will yield in a much smaller %increase.

[Jahaudant]

With Twin Snake duration increased to 15 seconds you do not need 2s GCD to rotate between flank and rear. Since that was really the only remaining reason to add skill speed to your set I don't see why anyone would bother any more, unless I'm missing something?

[Sevyn]

If you're one of those monks that only attacks from the flank, then crit is weighted more heavily than if you don't (i.e., if you were doing it correctly).

I never stated I only dps'd from the side, i actually said i had 2.0 GCD so I could get both side and rear rotations in without losing Twin Snakes.

With Twin Snake duration increased to 15 seconds you do not need 2s GCD to rotate between flank and rear. Since that was really the only remaining reason to add skill speed to your set I don't see why anyone would bother any more, unless I'm missing something?

And yes with the increase in duration for Twin Snakes it will allow us to drop some skill speed which will be nice since then we can use more pieces with crit or det. I was just curious where people were getting info that determination is a good stat so I could decide which to go with. For now though I'll be dropping some skillspeed to get more crit until determination is proven as a useful stat.

[Batcheck]

I was just curious where people were getting info that determination is a good stat so I could decide which to go with. For now though I'll be dropping some skillspeed to get more crit until determination is proven as a useful stat.

http://chocobro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/calculat...ut-calculator/

http://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVTC/comm...point_testing/

It's good info, but none of it concrete info. Make of it what you want.

[Sigred]

I never stated I only dps'd from the side, i actually said i had 2.0 GCD so I could get both side and rear rotations in without losing Twin Snakes.

I meant that as a blanket statement to anyone reading, not at you specifically.

As for crit/det/str weight, there was a spreadsheet posted somewhere around here that showed 1 STR being worth more than 7 crit. That would imply that det is worth more than crit anywhere you could trade it at a 1:1 ratio. There aren't many pieces you can do that, since SE usually decides that anything with det on it has a reduced allotment from the standard stat budget for a given ilvl, but they are there.

[Zakard]

imo skill speed isnt THAT good.skill speed give you a dps boost but in long fight,you will run out of tp way faster.overall its good for short but for long fight,its *fake* dps.skill speed also pretty low effect unless you stack a LOT of it

crit and determination will actualy give you higther number so its a direct dps increase and you can maintain it longer since you wont burn your tp really fast.

also with the 2.1 change,keep in mind that we will need to mouve from position all the time.having really hight attack speed by stacking skillspeed mean it give you really low amount of time to position yourself.you might not be able to cast it on time,everytime

[FaytKenbu]

have you used your program to weigh the new EM primal fight weapons/accessories? i feel some of the primal fight acc will be bis, and the Ifrit EM claws are better than relic zenith

[Wingszerodrive]

hmm i would love to try this... but i have yet yet to seee any sort of monk drop in coil..... well full AF2 is the way to go until the loot come downs from the heavens