Best Monk Set?

[EasymodeX]

Thats true to some extent, but the returns on skill speed just don't make it viable. 100 skill speed will give you 4% haste whereas 100 crit will give more than 8% critical chance. (also TP starvation is a thing in coil)

100 crit will give less than 8%. Current formulas have it at 6.9% unless there's been significant testing recently post-valk's. In addition, Monks have a good baseline average crit due to Bootshine mechanics and a traited IR.

This is a set of gear, not a single piece. The program I wrote to generate this takes into account every permutation of gear choice and weighs them to determine the best set.

The question is what stat weights are being used. I have Excel with a solver function that can spit out similar results, but it goes back to how much modeling vs. simulation vs. "gut feeling" / bias there is with the stat weights. I use stat weights based on a rotation model / partial simulation.

There's also legitimate strategic considerations like TP drain re: SS, which may or may not matter depending on the fight (and which also is really a "breakpoint" function where SS less than a certain amount has a normal value, but SS above the "softcap" will have TP problems in long fights and therefore has low value ... actually I could probably model that softcap).


Sidenote: What the heck is with this "rank" concept? There's basically T5 BiS and T4 BiS. Everything else is irrelevant for identifying because it's based on your personal luck with gear acquisition, which is unique to each player.

[KaosPrimeZero]

Is that really the BiS? I think SS is very important for monk as stated by Yiell, its iinevitable you will lose GL in raids so the faster youget them back up the more damage you do. Not sure. Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?

[Allyrion]

Is that really the BiS? I think SS is very important for monk as stated by Yiell, its iinevitable you will lose GL in raids so the faster youget them back up the more damage you do. Not sure. Also was the relic se just relic pieces only?

The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.

[Shiji]

The returns are incredibly low. Selene gives more than 100 SS, and that gives like .1 gcd reduction. That's comparable to what you will get from an entire gear set based on SS. That is simply not enough.

I would love for SS to be the monk's go-to stat. It suits us, however the stat isn't really at that point right now. If it increased auto-attacks and tp regen, it'd be valuable.

Well, Selene is 30% increase so the more SS you have the better! Honestly it's all opinion, but I stand by Determination followed by whatever skill speed you want while feeling comfortable in your rotation. Crit last for me.

[Allyrion]

Well, Selene is 30% increase so the more SS you have the better! Honestly it's all opinion, but I stand by Determination followed by whatever skill speed you want while feeling comfortable in your rotation. Crit last for me.

It's only "opinion" until everything gets properly calculated and simulated. Then there will be a clear hierarchy of stats. All information thus far has shown that SS gives the lowest return by a considerable margin.
Crit and determination is up in the air, but most of the stat calculators put crit ahead. There is an error of margin, but it's becoming less and less as people perfect the algorithms.

Stats are math, and math is not opinionated.

[Teeko]

It's only "opinion" until everything gets properly calculated and simulated. Then there will be a clear hierarchy of stats. All information thus far has shown that SS gives the lowest return by a considerable margin.
Crit and determination is up in the air, but most of the stat calculators put crit ahead. There is an error of margin, but it's becoming less and less as people perfect the algorithms.

Stats are math, and math is not opinionated.

Stats are math but often they are not applied to real situations. Simulations don't properly calculate fight mechanics, so they can show the correct stats for a "tank and spank" or target dummy fight. These typically don't exist.

Not saying you are wrong, I'm just not 100% sold on the answers yet

[Shiji]

The thing is SS is important in that you need to reach a certain amount so that your rotation is comfortable and there is more room for breaks (especially in coil fights to move). I never really understood why people would take crit over Determination UNLESS you had a ability that procced off of a crit. Monk has no abilities like that so I would rather choose Determination > Skill Speed (to a certain amount) > Crit

[Xell]

I think the best set will be:
Allagan Wep
Allagan Helm
Allagan Chest
Allagan Gloves
Allagan Belt
AF2 Pants
Allagan Boots
Allagan DRG Neck
AF2 Earrings
AF2 Bracelet
Allagan MNK and DRG rings

This gives us a total of 469 accuracy, enough to cap off with food, 488 str, 490 crit, 301 det, and 373 skill speed. Who knows if my math is correct. I much prefer Det and Crit to skill speed.

[Nexxus]

I think the best set will be:
Allagan Wep
Allagan Helm
Allagan Chest
Allagan Gloves
Allagan Belt
AF2 Pants
Allagan Boots
Allagan DRG Neck
AF2 Earrings
AF2 Bracelet
Allagan MNK and DRG rings

This gives us a total of 469 accuracy, enough to cap off with food, 488 str, 490 crit, 301 det, and 373 skill speed. Who knows if my math is correct. I much prefer Det and Crit to skill speed.

Turn 5 you're gonna miss with 469, not that much but still... 473~ is the way to go.

I did had some miss with 471 Acc.


I havent made a set yet, despit the fact that i'm almost full ilvl90 (so i could reach good amount of STR asap and now i'm gonna work on changing some pieces), i'd like to have 2 or 3 sets.

One Crit. set (without bard that can't regen TP, and keep the Acc.473)
One Skillspeed set (With a Bard that can regen TP, and keep the Acc.473)
One full crit.det set (with loss of ton of Acc. for lower mob or maybe Crystal Tower)

[neoreturn]

Allagan leg is way better than AF2. Monk never had acc issue in coil.