The decline begins... Square Enix, heed my call.

[amnie]

wait a second, you want the people speed-running the lvl 50 story stuff, the people who will insta-leave stone vigil (!) when you watch the intro-cutscene, the people who will yell at you to skip mobs, you want those people to run the LOWBIE DUNGEONS for tomes so people 'stuck in the story' have a 'better experience'?

uh. no. hell no.

people are 'stuck in the story dungeons' because they are doing them as dps. if you only want to advance and don't actually care about the dungeons then you need to find yourself a healer and tank friend and queue with them

I do the first three dungeons every day on my conjurer because
a) I still have yet to get the baret headpiece (and I really really want it)
b) I figured I'm shortening someone's queue like that,
c) I can help people out that are new to the game.. and
d) I LIKE doing them
I get an insta-pop every time

don't think there's a time where not even 4 people in your server group (I think one group is 4-6 servers) is interested in doing them. it's the role balance (or lack of it) that makes people wait in queue.

[Ri_ri]

Make an option to queue for ALL dungeons, and if you're level 50 using this option, you will level-sync if a low-level dungeon pops, you will also receive 100 Philosophy Tomes at the end of the dungeon. This will help low-level players stuck in the story queue-times and will also give variety to level 50 players that are sick and tired of CM/Prae/WP/AK... variety is GOOD, it's a win/win situation.

Aurum Vale? lol
/leave

LFM Relic +1 10 mins WP speedruns PST!

[sruon]

I haven't read all of the posts, but I think the solutions brought by the OP make a lot of sense and would alleviate some of the issues.

[Lisotte]

Aren't most of the points under point 1. and 2. being addressed with 2.1? Dungeons and leves will give better exp rewards, there'll be that random dungeon token feature, etc.

Some of the 2.1 improvements that SE is making we've known for weeks now, and yet people are still suggesting that kind of thing?

I do agree with point 3. though, they need to fix the netcode.

[LordSideKicks]

Aren't most of the points under point 1. and 2. being addressed with 2.1? Dungeons and leves will give better exp rewards, there'll be that random dungeon token feature, etc.

Some of the 2.1 improvements that SE is making we've known for weeks now, and yet people are still suggesting that kind of thing?

I do agree with point 3. though, they need to fix the netcode.

He been planning and writing this since launch. He is so holed up writing it he did not know things are already going to be addressed in 2.1

[Wobi]

I have to say you are the one who is wrong here.

People want variety. people are bored as crap with the current endgame as it is. If coil only dropped 6-8 BIS pieces and there was 5 other things dropping the rest people would not be bored atm. Streamline = shortlived simple as that.

While some will appreciate variety unless the rewards are different but EXACTLY equivalent then the "hardcore" crowd will 100% of the time run whatever nets them the most gear/tome/etc per hour. It would be naive to think otherwise.

[C-croft]

Considering the previous letter was 90% housing, I have yet to see any mention of my suggestions... could you please link me to the source? I would love to seeSquare-Enix mention dungeon experience and their plans moving forward.

ty.

Dungeon adjustments have already been mentioned for going to a lower level and assisting. The exact details are sketchy, but I am not going to link every single mention and source for their work. I am sorry, if you are only relying on the previous letter for your info, I think you need to do more research yourself. Reinheart has been translating a whole plethora of things, and you can at least go read them for yourself instead of expecting everyone to grab it for you. If you have been looking stuff up, you would see that things are in motion for the dev team. They have been working on a lot of things beyond the last letter mentions and housing. Just because your exact ideas aren't being used, does not mean SE isn't doing anything. You are not a snowflake.

I will say two things. You would be correct in a sense that I do not know if they will give philo tomes. Also, 100 tomes is a little much, even for helping lower level players. Considering you can trio the first few dungeons without a healer as long as someone has some MP and cure/physick.

[Alhanelem]

3. Client to Server issues

As of right now, most people are using VPN software to avoid AoE, simply because your connectivity with players and the server is really bad.

This is an issue where SE's traffic is being flagged by some providers as p2p traffic and getting traffic shaped/throttled as a result, wreaking havoc with latency.

[Alexb150]

What did you expect would happen? they basically restarted the game from scratch yet people insisted on keeping level 50 characters. with so many of the people playing starting at 50 of course content will become stale quickly. It was the same in 1.0.. pretty much everyone was capped with nothing to do, they release a dungeon or some endgame fight. you do that constantly for the first few weeks and once again you`re stuck with nothing to do. If people didn't bitch and moan that levelling was too slow then you`d have plenty to do

[Rekujen]

The only way they can make dungeons efficient without making 1-50 insanely fast would be to nerf fates... but if that were to happen, everyone would rage quit.

so the only logical solution would be to make dungeons reward more exp, this way I'm not pigeon holed into fates when leveling alts.