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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    I think it's hilarious how people..sorry, trolls, continue to say they "don't care about this game", but they're obviously keeping tabs on it. If I don't feel hopeful for a game, then I don't keep tabs on it. If I don't play a game anymore, I don't keep tabs on it. If I think a game is a "festering pile of crap", I'll stop playing, and then NOT keep tabs on it. You obviously care about the game, so stop acting like you don't, otherwise you wouldn't be bothered by thinking it is vague.

    I, however, think this was the best LftP thus far. Also, I honestly think MOST of this stuff will be out before summer. He put "UNTIL SUMMER 2011" in bold twice for emphasis for a reason. What else have they been doing these last 5 months? These are changes that should already be done by now. I'm not saying they're going slow, just saying this is just the fruits of what we've been waiting for all along. The reason they are saying "looking into" most things is probably because they don't want to make anything definite before they release the patch notes, otherwise people go "OMG BUT YOU SAID THIIIIIIIIIS".

    All that being said, I'm not going to get overly excited until I see some patch notes and know what he really meant, or until a Community Rep replies to confirm the timing.
    This is partially true. Some of the trolls may not care about the game at all and just like to ruffle feathers. The best way to handle them is to talk to them in calm, relaxing tones and treat them like adults. I hear this drives trolls crazy! If you can't do that, though, the next best thing is to simply ignore them.
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  2. #122
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    You make a good point, Durti. I'll remember this. But only if they seem to hate it.
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    You make a good point, Durti. I'll remember this. But only if they seem to hate it.
    Oh they do ^^
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  4. #124
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    Development of unique motions and effects for certain weapon skills

    Yes

    Achievements -NEW-
    Establishment of details for achievement system -NEW-
    Implementation of acheivements and rewards


    Who else suggested this besides Renta?

    Shift to automated character development based on class rank, with optional attribute point allotment

    So once thats in, we'll have the option for auto or manual point allotment?

    Distribution of roaming and quest-specific beastmen
    -NEW-
    Diversification of monster types in existing species


    I'd like to think I helped there :P
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    Development of unique motions and effects for certain weapon skills

    Yes

    Achievements -NEW-
    Establishment of details for achievement system -NEW-
    Implementation of acheivements and rewards


    Who else suggested this besides Renta?

    Shift to automated character development based on class rank, with optional attribute point allotment

    So once thats in, we'll have the option for auto or manual point allotment?

    Distribution of roaming and quest-specific beastmen
    -NEW-
    Diversification of monster types in existing species


    I'd like to think I helped there :P
    I doubt was it based on pure suggestions and more just an in-game use of pre-existing achievements that you find on the lodestone.

    Allotment wise, pretty sure it will be based on the class, e.g MND/INT/PIE will have the highest raise on Con/Thm automatically over STR/DEX for example.
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  6. #126
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    it's funny to see people claiming paternity for suggestions that have been posted multiple times, in multiple areas and by multiple people (especially things that are just a natural evolution of existing systems), but oh, well.

    The list of changes is quite fantastic, and some things are happening at an earlier timeframe than I expected, I'm also glad to see that there's no mention of the hate meter, which means we have time to let them know that it's a terrible, completely silly idea and that it should be axed without fail (like jumping, which thankfully has dropped to a low priority, replaced by a much more convenient and less annoying further removal of environmental collision detection).

    I would discourage the unrealistically hopeful, though, from thinking that "until summer 2011" means "BEFORE summer 2011". It probably means "before THE END of summer 2011", that given the amount of changes is an entirely reasonable (and actually still quite short) timeframe.
    Don't set yourself up for disappointment. If the changes listed come before June the 21st, then great, hats off because I don't even think it's possible (we're a single month away, come on), and that means that they really worked themselves to the bone and beyond. If they all come before september the 21st, well, they still did quite a great job.
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  7. #127
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    I know they probably looked at a combination of suggestions, internal recommendations, and play testing. Just joking around as far as people being responsible for certain additions go.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Well, sorry, but it's never going to reach you if this is your stance. Player polls asked for physical level to be abolished (rightly so), and there are far more immediate concerns than jumping. Also, theyre turning armor focus to being more class and rank specific so, bad luck.

    There's always second life if you want to wear preties and play minigames, though.
    Never reach if this is my stance? You should be remembered that we currently have physical levels (I don't care they take away the stats points to put them in class ranks, but don't take away physical level altogether. There is a lot of new possibilities to give another life to physical levels), right now armours can be worn by anyone at anytime, and for jumping, I didn't asked to have it implemented now. I said they should look into it before it becomes too costly to change everything to accommodate it if they build new content without taking jumping into consideration.

    Also, before making stupid remarks like "go play Second Life", start by taking the time to truly read and understand player's comments. My stance is to have the devs build new stuff on what we have and add to it, not take it away to replace it by something else while the two concepts can coexist. The polls never had any options to have the contents coexist together and there were many options that were not included in it. A poll is a poll, not a full and final answer since it lacks many elements.

    Now, if you want to wear ugly clothes and treat this game as a life or death matter, it's up to you. But an MMORPG is for entertainment and that's why I prefer a pretty character and some fun minigames to do in parallel with the main activities.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  9. #129
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    Honestly we dont need physical levels if we have the option to implement stats manually or automatically after ranking up. As far as equipment goes, i'm sure you can look forward to some nice stuff, if the art posted in the February letter was any indication.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    it's funny to see people claiming paternity for suggestions that have been posted multiple times, in multiple areas and by multiple people (especially things that are just a natural evolution of existing systems), but oh, well.
    Lol exactly.

    Unless your name is mentioned in the credits, you are nothing.
    (In terms of who is making this game.)
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