Healer Aggro

[Lecan]

SE gave you a toolbox. You can't use a hammer for every job in building a house and you can't use Regen every GCD. It's not guess work at all. If you don't want to take the time to understand your tools on your own, there are a lot of guides (starting with the good advice you've already ignored in this thread) to help you out.

[Rbstr]

As far as I can tell, all of the heal spells generate the same amount of hate per HP point healed.
So: Regen doesn't create any more hate per hitpoint compared to throwing a Cure. It's just that if it's on the tank and he pulls a group of mobs he's usually only hit one of the of them. If the regen tick happens before he's managed to land any damage on the secondary mobs that healing will put you onto the top of the hate table and they come running at the healer.
If you timed a Cure to happen at that precise moment the same thing would happen...except it'd be worse, because Cure would "heal" more HP so you'd end up with more enmity than a regen tick would cause.

[Lecan]

To simplify, most fights can be broken down to: precast Stoneskin to buy the tank time to build aggro before you need to heal, use Regen only when it will be gone by the end of the fight and when most of it will not be overhealing, use Cure 1 for most of the fight (but don't just spam it, you have to react to the party's damage), use Cure 2 when a lot of damage needs healed quickly (with preference given when Freecure procs), use Cure 3 very sparingly (if at all). Divine Seal, Presence of Mind and Shroud of Saints are situational abilities that can be used to keep yourself alive, heal through high damage portions of the fight with higher mana longevity and get more heals out in less time.

Healer aggro is fine. No, you can't just spam heal mindlessly and have the mobs ignore you but that's intentional (for the same reason Stone 1 has a movement speed debuff on it but Stone 2 does not; you need to know your job to be good).

[aryawoodborn]

Hey - I am conj and am nervous of going any further than lord of the inferno (don't even want to start that!) - I seem to be having a lag and I got loads of abuse on my last dun. I actually changed world and started again as some woman from a fc was rude and horrid - I play on a PS3. I moved from Shiva to Odin. I need to join a FC that actually does things - the last one I was in did nothing. So now I am a nervous reluctant scared healer who just harvests all of the time. Any suggestions pls?!

[Eightbit]

Just dive in and learn. Even the complete idiot who is raging occasionally has a good point on what you are doing wrong. Key is learn what is valuable from their bs and try to implement it and ignore the rest.

[Kerwin]

I would like to see the ability for WHM's to cancel the Regen spell to avoid aggro from fresh pulls.

[Maelwys]

I would like to see the ability for WHM's to cancel the Regen spell to avoid aggro from fresh pulls.

That.

Also, make it apply to Scholar's fairies.

As a Tank, I can click off Regen (providing that I'm playing on PC not PS3) but I can't do a damn thing about the stupid fairies pulling hate occasionally at the start of the pull... >.<

*FLASH, FLASH, FLASH*
"Dammit Eos, come back here with that Tonberry!"

[baopee]

You shouldn't really keep regen on all party members. Overheal generates aggro, but regen overheal does too. Every tick of a Regen on a player adds that heal amount to the threat of all enemies in combat. If you've got 4 regens ticking at once which arent healing anything, your threat will be through the roof.

yes, you are right, it could create a lot of hate on me, but i do pay awful lot of attention on aggro/ enmity gauge when i play as a healer. ( i have pld as my main job)

[baopee]

Wow, no, regen is reserved for tank, or a dps you don't expect to take more damage any time soon. and for MP you should be using Cure I which will prevent much overhealing and allow for free Cure II, as for Cure III it's very situational in that its range is so short that it is only MP and Enmity effective on an Overcure proc with a stacked group. Also if one mob is left and around half health don't apply a new regen just to be safe.

you will be surprised what DF has paired up with me,-tank does not know how to tank, tank wanna be dps, dps wont get out of aoe area.

[Sinaloa]

tldr

Either the tank uses the wrong skills or the healer does.

Spamming aoe and upping hots on targets at full health will draw aggro quickly. Some tanks can hold even that. Don´t expect it.
Ofc there may be DD´s not avoiding voidzones forcing you to heal. Not quite true. I can be more benifitial for the group to let them at 30%. They will play more careful and you can still soloheal them up as the rest of the group is stable. If they die it can be even better for the group (very rare though)

That´s the reason many ppl heal with mouseover while keeping the enemies in their target. It´s easier to recognize if it is save to heal stupidity. But you´ll get a feeling for that anyway and with some equip you won´t care about nonboss aggro anymore.