Doppelganger Screenshot Contest (NA) - Discussion Thread

[Punainen]

In other words, "I don't find these things valuable enough to pitch a fit over therefore you're wrong in doing so."

You wouldn't react the way we did. Fair enough. You thought it was judged fairly. Fair enough. We have differing opinions. So far yours is a minority voice here. I'm not attacking you for your opinions, but I'm not going to be silent on issues I care about. Just because you don't care or wouldn't react how I do, doesn't mean that I am somehow lesser for my own actions. A criteria was set for the contest and I felt that it was not followed. You felt that it was. By your own logic, you do not get to decide what is and isn't creative either.

Nope, I don't get to decide and I didn't get to decide. That's my point. The judges get to decide and they DID decide. That ought to be the end of it.

[Punainen]

The Ahriman Necklace is the rarest item in the game. You might not care about that kind of thing but many do.

Is it? So what? It's probably just a bragging rights piece that most people will never actually wear except when they wanna show off. And in all likelihood they'll give it out at another contest and another and another like they did with that Scarf.

[Selkie]

Yes, yes, you won. We know. We don't care. You deserved to win and I'm not trying to trivialize that. I can't help but to believe that your view holds bias, yet you want me to quiet up because my view holds bias too. You have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it. I have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it.

And we disagree. You want me to shut up and just let the winners and judges have their peace, while I would like nothing more than to continue pointing out how sloppy the selection was.

Why is this so important?

[Selkie]

Certainly if this were a one time event then it would be easy to let go, but this is a game. A game with exclusive items that players are encouraged to work hard to obtain. If players down turn five by bugging it, might I, too, question the legitimacy of that? If judges value entries with poor composition and lighting over seemingly superior competitors, might I question the legitimacy of that? In both cases I would be disappointed that the "loot" was not obtained based on more rigorous standards.

You said, "Dressing up as Impressio was uncreative. It's a Coatee set and a pumpkin head--bam Impressio...boring." when I brought up seasonal costumes. And although that argument is valid in some regard, subjectivity aside, it is strange nonetheless that no seasonal costumes won.

[Selkie]

This didn't deserve to win?


This didn't deserve to win?


Okay pumpkin men aside, what about this one?


Oh, I suppose this one is too easy too, eh? I myself did this NPC as did this person and a few others. But I suppose we weren't creative or unique enough. And the costume was too easy, ya? Having a level 50 weaver, the two month sub bathing suit, and tracking down the appropriate / closest gear and selecting the best dyes.

[Selkie]

Seasonal aside, this couldn't have been in to add some variety between the sylphs?

Nope. Moar sylphs pl0x.

(Additionally, I really feel for this guy. The one sylph that didn't win. ;_;7)

But y'know that's just, like, my opinion man. And I'm salty. ;3

[Selkie]

An honorable mention for this charming fellow as well:

[Sephirah]

Seasonal aside, this couldn't have been in to add some variety between the sylphs?

No idea where that picture was submitted because I don't recall ever seeing it, because I'm pretty sure that one WOULD have been a winner... but just looking at the actual LINK for the image, it's hosted on an EU site, assuming whoever uploaded it also lives somewhere in Europe, they would not qualify for the contest. (If you can provide a link for where that was originally posted I'd like to see )

But to all the other screenshots you posted, all the pumpkin heads and impressario's, yes, there are some good ones, but there were also about 400 of them, and they can't pick them all.

[Sephirah]

I understand you're unhappy with the results Selkie, but I really think you should just let this go. You're only adding to your own frustration at this point. There were many great entries, I'm sure it couldn't have been easy to only pick 100 when you have 7 times that many. And before you go saying I'm biased as well because I won, let me just say that if I hadn't, I would not be trying to flame the development staff for making what is apparently such an egregious mistake.

The only things the posts like yours and other people upset about this is doing is increasing the likely hood that events like this will never happen again.

Congrats again to the winners, and to everyone else I did really enjoy seeing all the submissions, there are some really amazing ones.

[Selkie]

This is the entry in question.

As stated prior, I would wish they not hold contests in the future if they will choose to run them carelessly. I agree with you. Square-Enix, I humbly advise you refrain from future contests if they will be anything like this one. Please stick to in-game contests that will be far less subjective in nature.

I am merely responding to people who respond to me, like you, yourself, are doing now. You need to let me go man. I'm not worth it. As long as you and others respond to my arguments, I will be polite enough to respond back.