Doppelganger Screenshot Contest (NA) - Discussion Thread

[Sephirah]

Apparently I was safe with selecting an Opo-opo to dress up as... I didn't see another entry with an Opo-opo

You're also the ONLY winner on Lamia, talk about exclusive items ^_^

[Selkie]

Thanks to all of you that show favor toward mine, I appreciate it. Oh well, here's to hoping Square Enix really fixes the way they judge these compositions. Duplicates are really silly, and similar ideas that are (sorry to say without sounding like a jerkwad) worse in quality than the originals, is really really bad.

This sounds really negative but with the winners for this contest being, well... what they are, my moral is really low now. I sort of expected... well... better from a huge company like Square-Enix. It took them four days to select these. I just don't know. I will enter future contests but I don't have the trust in them that I had before. Some entries are really good, don't get me wrong, but some... perhaps most... are... simply not. Or at least had far superior competition.

[MortonTaru]

This sounds really negative but with the winners for this contest being, well... what they are, my moral is really low now. I sort of expected... well... better from a huge company like Square-Enix. It took them four days to select these. I just don't know. I will enter future contests but I don't have the trust in them that I had before. Some entries are really good, don't get me wrong, but some... perhaps most... are... simply not. Or at least had far superior competition.

I couldn't have said it better myself, because I didn't.

[PiperC]

You're also the ONLY winner on Lamia, talk about exclusive items ^_^

Ya I am, not sure if anyone else on Lamia even entered >.> I see lots of Hyperion winners

[Selkie]

I couldn't have said it better myself, because I didn't.

I have this really depressing feeling that they'll completely ignore us and outright refuse to acknowledge any of the comments concerning it and, I think, that's the worst part about all of this.

I don't want to be comforted, I just like to know that our voice doesn't go completely unheard. In MMOs, exclusive cosmetic items and, well, fashion really are all that matter. Even at end game. Even if purely cosmetic. And that their selection for a contest giving out these items, which we may never see again and have absolutely no way to ever obtain, could be so poor is distressing.

[Chrysomallos]

Congrats to the winners, but I do agree that more deliberation could have been made amongst the duplicates and possibilities of composition in attire. If this meant sacrificing more time for the decision making, then all the more power to you (the EU contest won't get their responses until the 11th, which is very fair given the amount of entries).

There are many, many sets of gear out there, and not all of them are over 100K a piece. Just because, say, your AF or Company Gear is a certain colour, does not mean it's the best choice or one of the more creative options for your "doppelganger set". Even if we were to exclude that thought...:

[Chrysomallos]

This contest is all about composition! Be sure to match your equipment colors/shapes and utilize your surroundings to help accent your screenshot.

...Then why have those in mostly underwear won seemingly based upon their character creation? Sure, I'll give them credit in the landscape and that they're able to focus the subject in the center of a screenshot, but does this not encourage people to rapidly go out and create alts/an extra character just to easily win this contest?

Along with this, I do agree that it is unfair to blatantly exclude those imitating the All Saint's Wake-involved NPCs. Even if it was a smart, provisional measure to avoid complaints from the many who imitated the same NPC, they're still following the rules that it is a Doppelganger Contest. Those who simply posed with pumpkins (pumpkins are not an NPC) may not apply, understandably, as that was not the point... but otherwise...

[Chrysomallos]

On those grounds, though, you could say the same for all who are now complaining due to being "copied" and not given any credit, so... that was a failed attempt, if so.

Of course, not being a winner may lead people to think I am also being "salty", but even if I were excluded, I genuinely feel that there were quite a few others who were jipped compared to some of the winners that paled in comparison.

I also sincerely hope that they did not choose some of the winners due to fret of some of the servers seeming like they were favoured. Nowhere does it state that each server could only win so many.

[Chrysomallos]

/shrug. All the same, I had fun just doing it. The description made it fun if you wanted to come up with a little backstory for the heck of it, the idea itself was creative - given it wasn't pumpkin-and-bats-only while still being connected to the event -, and it was wonderful to see that not everyone applied themselves with just the focus of the reward.

I hope more of these are done in the future. However, this doesn't change the disappointing outcome for some of those involved (and please, take into consideration everything I just said, as that statement is not made based upon everyone who didn't win, haha. I understand the simple concept of there having to be losers as well).

I just hope they are never based on likes unless featured in a more clean and efficiently viewable way, that they are given a blind entry and then a voting period if so, OR that the community team gives themselves more time to discuss the outcome without feeling pressured by some people.

[Prido]

Lovely lovely words.

Good insight and points, Chrysomallos.

A lot of the Saint's Wake entries I had problems with were those using decor as their prop instead of NPCs or Monsters. There were actually quite a few good seasonal entries that I feel, as I've said, should have been allowed in.

At this point, I'm seriously debating the course of action to take. A petition would likely fall on deaf ears, but might get some honorable mentions something as a reward for their efforts...