the Time Limit for dungeons is unnecessary

[scate]

Yesterday, i use DF to "the aurum vale" , although had some mistakes in boss fight and WIP, but everyone still worked and learn conscientious and struggle. Unfortunate the time is over ,we didnt finish it and feel regret, but it is a funny journey .

What is meaning of the "Time Limit " ? meaing you need to "rush"? or "if you need to learn fast ,or just get out "? if the time only 30mins, and the dungeons still have 1/3, what should you do? Stopping the players not the boss but the tiresome design from DEV. "Time Limit" is not funny or interest but gloomy.

[Syncness]

I think it might've seen a precaution to people bugging bosses and taking their sweet time at it (soloing for example).

But for some dungeons, 90 minutes is tight for people that are doing it for the first time.

[NaruWhitehelm]

There is a Separate Server for Dungeons and only so many "Instances" of a dungeon can exist at one time the time limit prevent people from getting in a dungeon then going AFK or just goofing off stopping others from being able to que in because they are "holding" a spot. Best explanation I can do, hope that helps.

[Lisotte]

In my experience, long before you'll hit the time limit someone will ragequit and that leads to everyone leaving.

[MaFi0s0]

My guess is its to keep the DPS in check.

[Alhanelem]

The time limit for dungeons is very necessary, to prevent people from tying up instances forever.

Seriously. Every dungoen has an extremely generous time limit- it in no way forces people to rush.

[Aenomaly]

I completely agree, and have asked numerous times, what is the point with dungeon timers? I also know they are very generous and really there is no need to rush. But the timer creates the mentality, and for a game that relies so heavily on DF and pug grouping it is a horrible mentality to give to people. I have a scholar and marauder, so I hate the mentality the timer brings to the group. I barely have enough time to mark before dps is running in and pulling on their own. As a tank I hate this because my responsibility is to keep mobs off the group. As a healer it is damn stupid because I am wasting mp healing people who are taking unnecessary damage. People don't think to manage their hate anymore, which is a result of downing the mob as quickly as possible without taking into account this is a group effort. Sad part of it all is even when I let them do whatever and let the mobs go crazy the game is easy enough to where the dps can still survive.

People say it is because they need timers to prevent tying up the dungeons, I don't understand this reasoning. Wow doesn't have timers in dungeons, not that i can remember it has been like 5 years since I last played. Such congestion isn't an issue in WoW, why would it be in this game?

I wish they would remove the damn things, they are a silly implementation that does nothing but make pugs even worse then they already are to begin with.

aeno

[Johnist]

The Dungeon Time Limit (and all instances for that matter) is there so that players are encouraged to try to find a group of 'friends' with like schedules so that they can play the dungeon content with. If you don't learn the strengths and weaknesses of the players you play with, you will never progress through end-game except out of pure luck.

So the dungeon timer is trying make DF pointless, because instead of using DF, the point of the timer is to find static groups within our own server?? This is clearly not the point of the dungeon timer, what you said doesn't make sense. The dungeon timer is the speed up the pace of the group within the dungeon, for what reason i am unsure of. People say it is to keep the queues from becoming overcrowded, however I don't feel that is the case, and need proof. Otherwise they will remain a useless feature which creates the wrong mindset within the group.

Aeno

Proof? PROOF!? YOU WANT PROOF!?

Okay, how about having to add Duty Finder Servers exclusively to handle the load of WP and AK for the added Philos and the increased Mytho?

A lot of the mid level dungeons are tight on time. Partially I think some has to do with gear, some to do with people learning, and some dungeons just seem long. I hated the time limit until I hit 50 and now it is rarely an issue unless the party really sucks. I think at most give some of those mid tier dungeons a few extra minutes and call it good.

I didn't encounter any issues with the time limit until I hit the SIDE DUNGEONS (Primarily Sunken Temple of Qarn, Cutters Cry, Dzemael Darkhold, Aurum Vale). The main story dungeons are easy, but the side dungeons threw the difficulty wrench into overdrive for their starting level without having already experienced the dungeons.

[Aenomaly]

The Dungeon Time Limit (and all instances for that matter) is there so that players are encouraged to try to find a group of 'friends' with like schedules so that they can play the dungeon content with. If you don't learn the strengths and weaknesses of the players you play with, you will never progress through end-game except out of pure luck.

So the dungeon timer is trying make DF pointless, because instead of using DF, the point of the timer is to find static groups within our own server?? This is clearly not the point of the dungeon timer, what you said doesn't make sense. The dungeon timer is the speed up the pace of the group within the dungeon, for what reason i am unsure of. People say it is to keep the queues from becoming overcrowded, however I don't feel that is the case, and need proof. Otherwise they will remain a useless feature which creates the wrong mindset within the group.

Aeno

[Eightbit]

I think it might've seen a precaution to people bugging bosses and taking their sweet time at it (soloing for example).

But for some dungeons, 90 minutes is tight for people that are doing it for the first time.

A lot of the mid level dungeons are tight on time. Partially I think some has to do with gear, some to do with people learning, and some dungeons just seem long. I hated the time limit until I hit 50 and now it is rarely an issue unless the party really sucks. I think at most give some of those mid tier dungeons a few extra minutes and call it good.