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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    I made a post regarding this over on the reddits a while ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._a_blm/coawt3c

    The long story short is that looking at the stat weights(such as they work for these things) in a different way shows that it's generally more efficient to go for Crit than Det, on a Black Mage at least. If you do the same thing I do there on a Summoner, it also ends up being the case that Crit's more efficient, but not by quite as much. If that blurb above about how Det doesn't affect your pet is true, I can see why.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    The disgusting necro-post going on here is even more shameless lmfao.

    Anyway, you can literally just simplify all of that Donjo and multiply DET/CRT by their item budgets to see what's more effective "stacking".

    DET_Weight*20 = A
    CRT_Weight*29 = B

    DET_Weight*29 = C
    CRT_Weight*41 = D

    DET_Weight*13 = E
    CRT_Weight*21? = F

    More than often, it's more efficient to "stack CRT". This applies for every job pretty much. This is also part of the reason why some sets have very high CRT, and others have much lower CRT, when optimising for certain accuracy requirements that is.
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    Over 1yo thread? Why was it brought back to life..

    No Det does not affect proc rate on blm. Yes crit does affect DoT dmg. Pretty sure Spellspeed is best secondary stat on blm. (Looking at Spuro's e-peen section on his blm dmg calculated spreadsheet for example, most build that are top 10 are spellspeed)

    Monks benefit more from Det I believe, since we already have +30% crit rate every 60 sec and guaranteed crit hit ( bootshine). about the "weapon only effects pet" that I don't know of, but if that's the case crit all the way as a smn.
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picori View Post
    I main SMN in coil. I can tell you crit is way better. Pets don't work off det, it works of your book. You can take off all your gear and have your 110 weapon on and pet would be hitting same, but if you go to a 100 book you can see HP is lower on pet and it hits are weeker. Over all having Garuda crit is really good, and dots do crit. In like turn 11 my dots are doing 1,1k each tick not including crits, shadowflare 100-200, and Garuda is 350, but crit is over 600.
    It takes 8 det to= 1 int. So you would needs lots of det to make up differences of that crit for SMN.
    Det does affect pets, and it takes a lot less than 8 to get a comparable benefit to 1 Int.
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