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  1. #11
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    Rori Uguu
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    Because the first design was when XIV had a clear and unique story direction before it went full fanservice Final Fantasy themepark, shoehorning references from every FF like naming them after the FF12 scions. So now they're the counterpart of the Twelve that fight for Darkness/Chaos but aren't necessarily evil, just like my FF3 where the Warriors of Darkness weren't actually evil.
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  2. #12
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    That other guy is Tranvanchet. While he's never confirmed to be an Ascian, it is very obvious he is one. He's simply not weaping the Ascian robes.
    Y'shtola called in a CS the Ascians as shadoweaters and Tranvanchet has no shadow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...1iuB-Bkw#t=478

    Y'shtola: Fools! The Sahagin are not the only ones who seek the key. The shadoweaters - the Ascians seek it as well!
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  3. #13
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    Lee Keramory
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    Honestly I think its because there was simply a different development team and direction during 1.0 and 2.0. Obviously they made that very clear with the story we know so far from both versions. I believe however they are trying to tie in what they can (they cant or wont just recount 1.0's story) while still going the new teams route.

    A group of hooded men = a group of hooded reapers. They can make that work.
    Notice the shadows...or more so the lack of!
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyujinUzikin View Post
    I hope for a more reasonable purpose to them rather than just be "Evil"

    "Oh we are evil and we wish to destroy everything muahahahaha"

    Erm...why?

    "CAUSE WE'RE EVIL!!"

    Agreed, that was one of the most disapointing things about the storyline. Made them feel so generic. It felt like the Ascians were just Power Ranger villains.

    It didn't help that just about every "nefarious" plan they were involved with was repeatedly foiled by us players. With every monster they stuck on us was killed right after yet they kept going on about how unstoppable they were and how they'll get us because....darkness...I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Y'shtola: Fools! The Sahagin are not the only ones who seek the key. The shadoweaters - the Ascians seek it as well!
    Speaking of the "keys" I always wondered what happened to the two taken by the Ascians in version 1.0's story line.

    Then again, I would be surprised if we ever saw mention of them in 2.0. The Development team seems to have taken parts of 1.0's story out or completely rewritten them.
    Originally, all the Scions (excluding one notable person...) had the ability to use the echo, including your traveling companion. In 2.0, no one has the echo but you and said notable person.
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  6. #16
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    They remind me a bit too much of shonen jump tier villians. One dimensional and cringeworthy.

    At the end i was hoping it would reveal the true form but nope.. just more anime style bad guys.
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  7. #17
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    They actually remind me of Organization XIII members from Kingdom Hearts. But with better coats.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuso View Post
    Agreed, that was one of the most disapointing things about the storyline. Made them feel so generic. It felt like the Ascians were just Power Ranger villains.

    It didn't help that just about every "nefarious" plan they were involved with was repeatedly foiled by us players. With every monster they stuck on us was killed right after yet they kept going on about how unstoppable they were and how they'll get us because....darkness...I guess?

    As I was going through the main story I wanted to believe the Ascians wanted to retake Eorzea and revive their people. That somehow in the past they were wiped out by the primals, and in response they created Ultima Weapon to destroy them and reclaim the land, but since they were away for so long the land was overtaken by all the existing races. Then they plotted their return.

    But no, it's just, "Darkness dark evil dark!"
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbywocks View Post
    They actually remind me of Organization XIII members from Kingdom Hearts. But with better coats.
    I was also reminded of this. Don't get me wrong though, I was not disappointed, I thought the story was great and this was a fantastic setup for the next arc.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beurling View Post
    I thought they didn't have a real form and inhabited humans. Could be wrong though.
    ^ this

    they posess people
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