HM Titan Fight

[Eldelphia]

I'm not saying I'm perfect but I've had amazing groups who can't get it further than 8%. People who do the bombs well, line up for plumes. Yet someone always messes up. Tanking Titan is relative cake compared to healing it. Or in fact compared to DPSing it. I've tried DF. I've tried groups for hours. I bring food. I'm a SCH. I use every ability I have. I'm usually the last one standing with the tank. I just think that this fight is just miserable.

[Ross313]

I'm 0/43 in titan DF. No one wants a warrior in premade groups lol.

[silentwindfr]

titan as fight is poorly designed, wait before attack me, it's drop gear ilevel 70, but this fight is by far harder than any fight out (before coil 4)
the lag impact this fight a lot, why? because 0 error is tolerated. the damage deal by titan are insane, the mechanic is more insane. where is the fun in this? no where.

no random stuff nor interesting mechanic that will save this fight.
is a plain survival battle until p4, dps phase, return to a long and boring survival battle for p5. but the trouble is the length of this survival battle... 10 minutes...where no one in the group is allowed to do mistake. if it was the last bost of the coil why not, but that not the case... him difficulty in comparaison of the ilevel needed is...weird.
indeed we get relic from it, indeed it give us acces to the coil.... but at the 2.1, we will have CT, and i'm sure a looot of people will do CT, get full stuff before get titan killed. this fight need a real rethinking.

give us challenge, yes! but it still need to be fun! it's game after all... if a fight is challenging, but not fun... people will get angry, will avoid it or worst hate it.
i do have a friend healer, she is diligent and work really hard, but each time we fail, she feel is her fault when is not. this fight need to be rethink...fast really really fast!

ohh i already see people in FC that do it in static with player well equiped and the same group say... no is easy and all, l2p.
i have already killed titan... but that don't change the fact that i found this fight not fun and too much punishing.


ps: if the fight after are simplier, then something is wrong there!

[Xbob42]

I like how the only person to call it easy so far has been the guy in fucking Order of the Blue Garter of all guilds on a goddamn LEGACY server where not only did he not have to go through not having a quality Free Company but he conveniently got to keep all of his high level gear. (To be fair he could totally have had no gear at all and rolled a fresh character on the server, I don't friggin' know.)

My FC, like many, can take it down with 4-5 people no problem, but we overgear the fight and know every single hit by heart. No one carried us with relics, we built our FC from scratch and mastered the fight inch by inch with gear appropriate to the fight. While it only took us about 2 hours to down him the first time once our FC was formed, we all had plenty of prior experience with the fight. It's still a headache, terribly boring and poorly designed. Nothing in Coil (pre-Twintania) is harder. There are things that are mechanically more complex, absolutely, but they're not HARDER. Turn 4 comes close if you have a poor group composition, but at least that's a fun and exciting fight.

[Lany]

More servers should start dedicated linkshell for Titan like we have on Odin, we one shot him for free for people many times every day.

[Myrhn]

I join almost daily to a Titan run as healer and if most of the ppl (at least 5) dodge what they are suppose to dodge we can win. Even if the other healer goes down can solo heal for a bit before my mp start running out. Always reise ppl on the part that is WoTL > goal > landslide> swipe > MB if you so it at the start by the time Titan do tumult the raised person should by full HP and ready to continue. Also raise on a corner opposite of where most of the people are standing.

[AlternativeOne]

Gonna need a relic to do Crystal tower. You will need to beat titan to be any use there. I know Yoshi said they where just thinking about it but a relic will be the minimum ILv. for CT.
I think I did Titan hard about 40 times since Friday. The duty finder que for that instance is near instant as a brd i never waited more than 3 minutes to get into the fight. Biggest problems Ive notice is under geared players, and rage quitting after a couple wipes. you not gonna win or learn to beat it if you keep bailing on your groups. Low dps during the heart phase and not getting esuna for that 1min long det down effect you have after getting freed from the rocks. Every other time when those things weren't a problem some one gets killed in the first 2 phases before the heart. Sometimes that person was me but every time I got to p5. i was the last one alive. Even on my first attempt ever. I got to p5 with a DF group and didn't know what was going on and still lived longer than everyone else. That shit is too hard. The damage from tumult is way to much to over come with all the other things going on at the same time. I want the fight nerfed. Cant believe Im saying that but yeah I want a nerf to that instance cause as it stands I don't even want to play this game because of it. Im actually kinda depressed that I spent my entire weekend fighting him and havent won.

[Raenryong]

But you don't have to deal with anything else at the same time as Tumult. Your healers can focus on aoe healing.

[silentwindfr]

i'm not sure we will need a ilevel 80 weapon for do a dungeon ilevel 80...
more important it's greatly possible pharos sirius (the new dungeon) will drop ilevel 65 if not 70.

the trouble is more in the damage deal by every attack:
- land slide, from p2, insta death (you can survive but you are lucky)
- plumes, 2200-2300
- bomb, 3000-3400
- stomp, 700-850 (450-500 for the tank), in p5 you can have 6 stomp in row... 2700-3000 damage.
- mountain buster, 4600 (hopefully can be mitigate... must be mitigate!!)
- the jump deal between instant death (if you are below him) and 1600

a caster in dl will have 3400 hp, a monk 3700, a dragoon 4000 (but take more damage, thanks to the low m.def)
all the pressure of the fight is on the healer, if someone make too much mistake them mp will fly away, if they heal too much (whm mostly) they will often steal the hate of the tanks (medica 2 is a pain)

too much attack of the boss are.... dealing way too much damage. before p5 is not really complicate, but in p5 if you don't react instantly it's often means death.

like i have said this fight is poorly designed since it's not the end game fight but the entrance of it! if they want to make a fight like this... it's in the coil, where you can't go in DF, this sort of fight that ask a really good coordination have not it place in the DF.

[saber_alter]

i started running the binding coil with my FC.

titan is now officially a joke.