Hard Mode Titan hard for PUG groups? Shocker.

Hard Mode Titan hard for PUG groups? Shocker.
Hiya,
Actually i LOVE TITAN fight, i do it lot of time when i'm not on raid / farming dungeon.
i have 4 relics (war / paladin / dragoon and scholar) working on 900 phylo to buy the final item.
I made it with my guild for my 2 tanks to help them, for my dragoon, it's a reroll so i did it with DF / random group from server, i beat titan with garuda weapon and full AK armor only, and for my scholar, same with 47 pink rings. This fight is just to know how run away from plumes, and hope the healer precast tumult AOE.
I have lot of success with my little macro to show the pattern, and got lot and lot invite to help.
If u are on moogle, just try to tell me for any help, always a pleasure for me to do it.
Marty McFly,
Enjoy !
A really good option is actually to stack in p5 for plumes, and run out when it's is about to be cast. That way folks are already moving to an empty space and will dodge plumes. The only issues are if somebody starts moving late - they'll die - or if two people move too early and a third person doesn't but goes the same way - they will die too. Not something I'd suggest for DF groups, but like others have said, I'd suggest not doing DF groups at all and go with a pick up group from your server. At least you'll find out if they are worth playing with in the future.In that case, people are supposed to spread out and one common problem that I see is that people like to stand next to each other so when the WotL drops, it comes clumped together and becomes very difficult to run out. The way that it's supposed to go is that he targets 3 people/areas with 1 each. You're supposed to have an empty area to run to regardless of what direction you run in.

I did it as WHM with a bad gear and a 1-1:50 second lag without dying.
You can do it.
Or 1 tank 3 healers.
Having fought Titan with 2 Healers and 5 DPS and 3 Healers and 4 DPS, I think 2 healing is the way to go.
One of the biggest problems with DF groups is the Heart phase. Even getting a good group (and by that I mean people who can dodge stuff), being limited to 4 DPS due to DF, the damage is already gimped making Heart a lot harder than for a premade group. Having an extra healer also, mentally, makes people play worse. They get the idea that not dodging stuff isn't as important since they'll just get healed up anyway. Or at least that's my thinking.
I've ran with three healers before and while I haven't beat it having one of the three healers, if they are a Conj, cleric stance until after the heart helps significantly. Not saying tis ideal but having a third healer after the heart helps significantly. Especially with tumults. Lag and weights have always been the bane of all my parties once in p5.Having fought Titan with 2 Healers and 5 DPS and 3 Healers and 4 DPS, I think 2 healing is the way to go.
One of the biggest problems with DF groups is the Heart phase. Even getting a good group (and by that I mean people who can dodge stuff), being limited to 4 DPS due to DF, the damage is already gimped making Heart a lot harder than for a premade group. Having an extra healer also, mentally, makes people play worse. They get the idea that not dodging stuff isn't as important since they'll just get healed up anyway. Or at least that's my thinking.
good for him / her then
cause i'm miles away from landslide, i get hit
I'm not near the plume after a pre move, i get hit
I moved away from the bombs half a screen away I get hit
lags kills me..not some rotation from memory
If you don't memorize the rotation for Titan, you do not deserve to win.


Someone is ALWAYS dead in Titan so often before heart phase.If the group past the Heart Phase everyone get excited & don't focus anymore.As a result -> WIPE
I speak from my own experience.Got Titan to 10% LP but at that time 3 DPS already down...
It's not that people are too dumb to dodge.One mistake & it costs your life.That's why Titan is merciless.
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