HM Titan Fight

[Eldelphia]

Please for the love of god do something about this fight. It's miserable. I have gotten to sub 10% a few times now. I am geared. I worked for some good gear. I am completely stuck because of this fight. I'm usually one of the last standing.

People spam it until they get through and then don't want to do it again. So many relic holders refuse to redo this.

On Siren, there are a number of shouts for people selling this fight for hundreds of thousands of gil. I appreciate that means there's a group out there who are geared for it and can help others but only if you buy it.

The fight is obviously not impossible but it is absolutely miserable and as so much of this game is done in shout or DF groups, it's ridiculously unforgiving. Tone down phase 5 one notch and it would make it possible for those people who have geared themselves appropriately to get through and others would be more willing to help.

[coffeerox]

Yes the fight is miserable. Lots of different factors contribute to making this fight awful on the DF. Just to list:

Built in 300ms lag
Additional lag due to servers being hosted out of country (can be anywhere from additional 100-300ms)
Server doesn't update position for about 3 sec
Undergeared players

A few things they can do to make the fight more comfortable:

Add .50 to 1s to Weight of the Land to account for the lag (or fix the freakin netcode)
Reduce the damage of phase 4 to 5 transition (more situation than not, not everybody is topped off at the end of that phase)
Restrict the encounter to those with a certain ilvl or higher (coming soon)

[Zaft]

Titan is rather easy. It gets much, much worse, and nerfing Titan would just let people progress into things that would utterly destroy them.

Memorize the rotation, make sure your healers are pre-casting (they shouldn't be waiting to cast, begin casting and cancel casting as needed), use your cooldowns wisely and you should do fine.

[Eldelphia]

I AM a healer. It's miserable. I have memorised the fight but getting a group through this is revolting.

[Zaft]

I AM a healer. It's miserable. I have memorised the fight but getting a group through this is revolting.

Well, let's try breaking down the problems you're having. I main WHM or SCH, so I should be able to help.

[coffeerox]

Well, let's try breaking down the problems you're having. I main WHM or SCH, so I should be able to help.

the problem is not the healer, the problem is the group as a whole. She's never going to make it through the fight unless the entire group is competent and right now the DF groups are not it. Like I said, there's certain factors that make this worse than it actually is and those problems show up more on the DF than anywhere else.

At this point I would just recommend buying the run. It's not her that's the problem it's other people.

[Kyoreore]

Move to Excalibur if possible, I'll put together a run for you :]

[MisakiSatomi]

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Actually, the healer is who carries everyone through Titan. If everyone just dies to weights though, you shouldn't even try it with them.

[Xbob42]

Titan is rather easy. It gets much, much worse, and nerfing Titan would just let people progress into things that would utterly destroy them.

Titan's easy once everyone has the gear and has memorized the entire fight by heart, but I wouldn't say it gets "much much worse," we're up to Twintania and there hasn't been a fight in Coil that has made anyone want to tear their hair out like Titan. Coil is easy crap until you hit turn 5, and even that fight never frustrates us because it's fun to try to figure it out.

Titan is just mechanically uninteresting. Your heart stops every time plumes go off (I'm talking non-FC groups, here.) because you know there's a high chance of someone being hit. You have to pray to every god there ever was that people don't fall apart once you hit the final phase, it's just awful. If you've got a good FC for it, great. But you don't really need a good FC for like, any other fight in the game. Hell, I've ran a few PUG coil groups for fun and they had less trouble than most Titan groups that are still actually progressing and aren't being carried by relic holders.

That's why I duty-finder Titan HM as much as I can, because it's also the only way for me to help other tanks (outside of my FC, I actually believe in a larger community and not cliques.) get their relics, because it's a pain in the motherfucking ass for a tank to get a relic because no one EVER needs a tank in pre-made groups, so you have to start the group yourself (typically hours of work) or Duty Finder it (also hours of work.)

It's just so poorly designed. It's an awful, uninteresting fight that doesn't even bring in a group makeup that makes a lick of sense. (Even Coil typically obeys the "2 tanks 2 healers 4 DPS" rule.)

I give it an F- out of 5.

[Avalon_Albrook]

At this point I would just recommend buying the run.

Shut up. (that was the polite version of my response)

Yes, getting the right group together is how to beat Titan. All the gears need to be in place for the machine to run. That said, DF wins are not impossible by a long shot. It's just the game's most painful example of the law of large numbers. The win can, does and will come.

You'd be surprised by how many of us with relics and +1s still queue up solo in DF just because we knew we can provide the maximum amount of help in that spot of the party.