Food Crafting seems imbalanced (time vs value)

[Kayko]

I think that food (mats used and the buffs) need to be looked at and adjusted. As it stands, the time invested to gather materials and craft the food do not even come close to the gains they provide.
For a basic item like La Noscean Toast, 10 different items are needed from all over Eorzea. The travel time alone is getting up there towards the buffs duration and when the time it takes to do the 7 steps to craft it, you are pushing close to the actual buffs duration.

In my opinion, the current setup for what it takes to get the materials and craft foods versus the buff itself only encourages botting or RMT. With the changes to gathering experience and leveling speed, the behind the keyboard time invested does not even come close to the market value of the materials.

[Estellios]

Hell, wait till you need to farm shards to make food. It will probably take 3x as long as gathering the mats. I really hope they look into changing it.

[Xbob42]

We need to make like a minimum of 5 food items per craft. Or perhaps food needs to persist through death. It's just such a monumental time sink every single week for regular raiding. I literally helped every single person in my raid group get to 50 culinarian (I got to 50 first then just made them HQ food for the triple turn-in leves) so that everyone would be able to make their own food instead of having one or two guys spend several hours per week making enough for everyone.

It's patently ludicrous.

[Kayko]

Or perhaps food needs to persist through death. It's just such a monumental time sink every single week for regular raiding.
It's patently ludicrous.

I do think that persisting through death would be a good solution or at the very at least as a temporary solution but I'm personally all for the food to persist through death.
Coil is a place were one persons slight mistake can easily lead to a raid groups wipe and even if you take a VERY conservative 15 minutes per food crafted, that equals 2 hours of lost time (8x15 minutes) and all just cause of a mistake, no matter how slight it was or even worse, something out of a players control (since we all know how fantastic the instance servers can be on any given day.)

I would venture a guess that 2 hours is about an average amount of time a random group puts into a night of raiding. So, a single wipe with food equates to an average days worth of raiding...... that seems to me to be a pretty stiff penalty for death, don't you think?

[madolyn]

I was sitting here making la noscean toast and thinking this exact thing. i spent the better part of the day collecting the mats to make the walnut bread then to make the toast. i bought some mats from the vendor but still...i then had to sit down and craft 99 pieces of toast. it was very very tedious and hardly time effective for the amount of profit netted. Amount of materials required per synth should be lowered OR the amount created per synth needs to be increased.

[Bufkus]

You used to be able to buy walnut bread, but they fixed that with the hotfix.

They should have just removed walnut bread from the la noscean toast recipe, or changed the walnut bread leve to something else.

[Kayko]

I bought some mats from the vendor but still...i then had to sit down and craft 99 pieces of toast. it was very very tedious and hardly time effective for the amount of profit netted. Amount of materials required per synth should be lowered OR the amount created per synth needs to be increased.

This in a way brings up an interesting point to how the different foods need to be adjusted. 2 common used foods of La Noscean Toast and Buttons in a Blanket vary massively in the amount of crafting involved to make them. Currently, it takes about 6 separate steps to make the toast vs 3 steps needed for Buttons. To add more to this, you need to collect enough materials for 30 toast in order to use up each and every item (due to some of the crafts having a multiple yield) vs the Blankets only needing to craft 6 at a time to use all materials.

[Astarica]

I think food should persist through death, or at least make HQ food persist through death. The effort involved to make them isn't too bad if they didn't vanish the moment you die.

[Kimura410]

im for persist through death as well ^^^

for the toast, I have been quick synthesizing 50+ walnut breads when i gotta afk for a littl while, then i buy pretty much everything else off MB. takes me a total of 20 mins to make like 20 toasts then add like 20 more mins to gather mats. I dont buy HQ items either, i have all my chef gear to easily HQ toast out of normal mats. Still Way cheaper than buying HQ toast off MB.

My advice is dont use food when u are still pretty new to an instance, like ur new to turn 1 and havent quite mastered it yet, maybe dont use the food until you have a good grasp on it. The thing is, you dont need the food, its just nice to have and makes the fight a bit easier is all. I dont stress about food.

[Shiyo]

Agree 100% OP, I already have a thread on this here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ading-on-death.

Let's all keep it in a single thread(like the japanese do) to help SE see all our feedback more easily and fix this issue.