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    Can we limit people who didnt reach end game from posting feedback about end game?

    Seriously, people who didnt even touch coil yet qqing about how the game should be, namely Bard balance. They have limited understanding while being too vocal which force SE to blindly follow. It is like asking children to solve the recession/money debt crisis. You have a lot of reply but 99.99% are noise and useless.
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    Shinda Usagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    Seriously, people who didnt even touch coil yet qqing about how the game should be, namely Bard balance. They have limited understanding while being too vocal which force SE to blindly follow. It is like asking children to solve the recession/money debt crisis. You have a lot of reply but 99.99% are noise and useless.
    So people should only have an opinion about the jobs they play once they reach the 'pinnacle' of the game. Got it.
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    Serafall Lockheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShindaUsagi View Post
    So people should only have an opinion about the jobs they play once they reach the 'pinnacle' of the game. Got it.
    When you have for example level 37 warriors saying "the class is fine, just learn to play! I have no problems with tanking dungeons right now and I don't see why it would be a problem in the future since I'm pro and stuff" then yes, their opinions are, frankly, invalid.
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    Seriously, people who didnt even touch coil yet qqing about how the game should be, namely Bard balance. They have limited understanding while being too vocal which force SE to blindly follow. It is like asking children to solve the recession/money debt crisis. You have a lot of reply but 99.99% are noise and useless.
    Yeah, but bard is totally OP for pretty much all endgame content, especially coil. With as much support utility it has, it is pretty ridiculous that it puts out so much damage. A very slight nerf would only bring it more in line with other classes as far as being useful goes.
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    Marley Tiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vantwan View Post
    When you have for example level 37 warriors saying "the class is fine, just learn to play! I have no problems with tanking dungeons right now and I don't see why it would be a problem in the future since I'm pro and stuff" then yes, their opinions are, frankly, invalid.
    Yep, that kills me every time. It's like saying, "I have zero experience with this Job in endgame (I may not even have it leveled), but my opinion holds the same weight!". It kills me.
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Bard is overpowered because it can do full damage while dodging/moving and staying at range, not because it does the most damage in target dummy situations. It needs cast times added on some of it's attacks, or some should root them in place for 2-3 seconds so it has to stand still to do full damage, like every other class in the game.
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    Last edited by Shiyo; 10-21-2013 at 05:15 AM.

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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    To OP:

    It will not happen because that would be to great.
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marleytiva View Post
    Yep, that kills me every time. It's like saying, "I have zero experience with this Job in endgame (I may not even have it leveled), but my opinion holds the same weight!". It kills me.
    Most of the people I see saying warrior is fine as-is are paladins.
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    Serafall Lockheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    Most of the people I see saying warrior is fine as-is are paladins.
    I don't even have warrior leveled but I can tell that they need some lovin' just from what I've been seeing in coil.
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    Kaji Nari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Bard is overpowered because it can do full damage while dodging/moving and staying at range, not because it does the most damage in target dummy situations. It needs cast times added on some of it's attacks, or some should root them in place for 2-3 seconds so it has to stand still to do full damage, like every other class in the game.
    If being able to move and do full DPS is the issue, why not just reduce the BRDs damage for what ever skills they use while moving? Or would that not satisfy people?

    Rooting in place would be terrible, even casters can walk and cancel their cast if they know they're bound to be in a rough spot if they stand where they are. Cast times are out of question, the entire kit would need an overhaul to fulfill that adjustment.
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