Multiple Classes is a lie

[davidbowie]

Really getting tired of people blindly defending flaws in the game that need to be adjusted to make the game a much more enjoyable experience for everyone.

I am getting tired of people who think their opinion is better then anyone elses and then makes comments like the one above...only flaw is people who can't handle others who disagree.

[Khalette]

wow so everybody plays mmo's now to finish them fast af should be immediate not gained over time ok hey sqaure enix just give these guys everything now so they will stop complaining hell lets make game easier.
FFXI af could take months to years to get but those were the days when people were willing to work for it and suffer.


mmo's are dead thanks to the I want it now generation of gamers who are impatient.

I couldn't agree more, and I'm about as casual as they come. I haven't even reached tome cap yet. I don't mind it taking forever, and I absolutely love the multi-class feature. Everyone that is OMG I HAVE TO GET THIS DONE RIGHT NOW is going to find themselves burned out on the game.

Do what you do and enjoy it while you do it. If you're not, go do something outside the video game and enjoy that.

Quit demanding gear because you expect to be the best with little effort.

[Sylve]

Really getting tired of people blindly defending flaws in the game that need to be adjusted to make the game a much more enjoyable experience for everyone. These type of people are more detrimental to the game than anything else - by defending such bad designs they encourage the dev's to not look into anything that could be improved and actually hold back the game from becoming much more than it could be, and stop the game from evolving into something much, much, MUCH better.

Please stop blindly defending things just because you get offended by someone criticizing something you love, you are holding the game back in so many ways and if you actually enjoy the game as much as you show in your posts, you would WANT them to make the game better and fix any problems/flaws in the game, not defend them and allow them to run rampart forever just because you're somehow offended if someone criticizes a game you love and enjoy. Rally up with us, and show the devs of this game that there's things wrong with this game that NEED their attention! A smart person would notice the problems, support us, and want their game to be the best it could be, showing the devs there's problems so a brighter future for the game can happen and EVERYONE, including yourself, can have a much more enjoyable MMO experience.

No, you want the game to change to what YOU think makes it more enjoyable.
There are flaws, and there are preferences. Your desire for a change to how Myth caps work is a preference. The 0.3 second positional check delay is a flaw.
See how that goes? You and people like you need to stop blindly lashing out at people who make counter arguments.
You are, I'm sure, aware of how a counter argument works right? Just because i disagree with you does not make me wrong and stupid. It seems that you're fast to attack the way other enjoy the game, yet can't understand that we'd do the same to your opinions.
What i enjoy is not what you enjoy.
MMOs can't please everyone, but theres generally something that people like. If the things you don't like outweigh the things you DO like, then this game is not for you, and its time to start looking for a new game.

[Allyrion]

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Did you read AdvancedWind's post? That is an example of a well thought out retort. You may not agree with it, but there are valid defenses that need to be considered. There are people blindly criticizing the game without being constructive, which is just as detrimental to the game as the people blindly defending. Two sides of the same coin.

You can't be thought-police on the forums. You can argue against design in a constructive way, but be expected to bump into people who don't agree with you. You may not understand why people would ever defend against something other people want. Mob mentality is never rational though. It can be short-sighted and hurt the game in the long run. If you really want to help, make good arguements, retort the people who make good retorts and in the end. the devs will decide how to resolve the issue.

'Rallying the troops' just gets you knee-jerk reactions. In this case, it can lead to something irreversible (taking out the myth and weekly caps). It needs to be taken with the seriousness it deserves, especially with CT on the horizon which can potentially be a great compromise. I think the only adjustment necessary is to make it possible to run Coil more than once, but no chance to roll for loot more than once.

[AdvancedWind]

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But what you're assuming it's a flaw might not be a flaw in someone else's eyes. In fact, I'm pretty sure everyone here has different opnions on every aspect of this game, and sometimes our opnions fall within what the developers are intending, sometimes they don't. It's impossible to please them all. You clearly are pissed off by this, I clearly am not and already explained why I believe it's not a problem.

Also: if I like the OST and someone else dislikes the OST, does that mean the OST has to be changed? Same things apply here. I like the current system, you hate it. Who's right?

[Lord_Zlatan]

seriously, what do you expect? You pay per month to play this game. They are not going to make it a cake walk to completely pimp out (AF2) a second class in no time at all.

They are kind enough (if you are up for the brian rot) to let us fate grind from 20-50 in about 2 days.

Slow down some and enjoy the ride.

[Amberion]

wow so everybody plays mmo's now to finish them fast af should be immediate not gained over time ok hey sqaure enix just give these guys everything now so they will stop complaining hell lets make game easier.
FFXI af could take months to years to get but those were the days when people were willing to work for it and suffer.


mmo's are dead thanks to the I want it now generation of gamers who are impatient.

I played XI also, an while AF could take awhile. There was no programmed cap that made it so you couldn't progress more then x-amount each week. Here, you have a cap that makes it so you can't complete AF2 + Relic+1 before 5 months.

[InVizO]

The OP is upset that AF1 isn't Darklight strength essentially.

[Bizniztyme]

I played XI also, an while AF could take awhile. There was no programmed cap that made it so you couldn't progress more then x-amount each week. Here, you have a cap that makes it so you can't complete AF2 + Relic+1 before 5 months.

FFXI the relics, basically what the OP is talking about had all kinds of roadblocks and wait times.

[Ryios]

Imo, Lockouts and caps should be role specific. E.g. Say I'm capped on my Warrior and saved to turn 2. Then my Pld would also be capped and saved to turn 2, but my BLM would not be capped and not saved to any turn.