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    Player
    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    I assume crystal tower will have 1 week lock outs as well, also the fact it's 24 players so you're rolling around 5-11 other players every time loot drops ._.

    I don't see crystal tower fixing this problem, AT ALL. I also assume PVP gear will be time-gated and use the same model as mythology tomes so we'll only be able to gear a single class in PVP per X months.
    I've highlighted the problems with that counter-argument for you. You don't really have a clue about how the CT will or won't improve the situation but are willing to assume it won't just so you can continue to complain.

    FYI the CT is in the duty finder which makes it very unlikely to have a lockout of any kind. Yoshi-P has already said it's the 'casual' endgame. On top of that those 24 players are also going to be splitting into three different parties tackling different bosses simultaneously... so that's actually the same loot/player ratio that we currently have in 8-mans. The fact you know nothing of this only highlights the fact that you seem to be looking for excuses to complain rather than enter into a constructive discussion.

    Now factor in that CT drops ilvl80 gear which will be MORE than enough to tackle BCoB and suddenly all your jobs can easily be geared for endgame without any time-limited caps or lockouts.

    The purpose of the myth tome cap is not to slow progression but to simply stop you from reaching the very top before they can add a higher tier. ilvl90 gear is not actually necessary to progress in the game (or at least won't be once we have ilvl80). The only reason people are clamouring for the AF2 stuff is because it's needed for the later turns of BCoB due to the currently missing tier. When content requiring ilvl100 gear is released SE will make ilvl90 gear easier to obtain. This is how they did things in XI. New content was ALWAYS heavily gated or restricted whilst older content was made easier to allow players to catch up and start working on the new stuff. Hell all MMOs work on that concept.

    The problem here is simply the missing ilvl80 tier combined with a belief that you NEED ilvl90 gear to progress. You don't need it yet, not until the next tier is added and by then it'll be easier to get (they have already stated this).

    Now I guess you'll ignore my post whilst suggesting everyone that disagrees with you (myself included) has no clue about any of this... Go ahead. I think most people reading this thread are quite capable of judging the better argument for themselves.
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    Player davidbowie's Avatar
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    Zealous Jackal
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    Diabolos
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    Really getting tired of people blindly defending flaws in the game that need to be adjusted to make the game a much more enjoyable experience for everyone.
    I am getting tired of people who think their opinion is better then anyone elses and then makes comments like the one above...only flaw is people who can't handle others who disagree.
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    seriously, what do you expect? You pay per month to play this game. They are not going to make it a cake walk to completely pimp out (AF2) a second class in no time at all.

    They are kind enough (if you are up for the brian rot) to let us fate grind from 20-50 in about 2 days.

    Slow down some and enjoy the ride.
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    Invizo Stellar
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    The OP is upset that AF1 isn't Darklight strength essentially.
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    Ryios Locke
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    Imo, Lockouts and caps should be role specific. E.g. Say I'm capped on my Warrior and saved to turn 2. Then my Pld would also be capped and saved to turn 2, but my BLM would not be capped and not saved to any turn.
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    Cotje Ruano
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    Hmm, I haven't even decided on a main yet. While I understand the source of frustration I also undertand this is a subscription based MMO and like all other MMOs that you pay to play they have systems in place to slow progression so that you do have to pay to keep playing. I don't see how this is news worthy.

    They also purposely slowed progression because we are lacking content that was supposed to be in at ARR release to help in gearing out our classes. If that content was in for release then the myth cap might have been higher. Crystal Tower was supposed to help bridge the gear gap. Now we have all these cry babies that rushed to end game saying Crystal Tower will be useless. It might be useless to those that rushed to end game, but um.... sucks to be you and we knew what 2.1 would come with... yet you still rushed.. if you didn't know then you should have researched otherwise you shouldn't complain because it's all on you. The information has been out there for well over a month.
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    White Mage Lv 66
    This seems to be a symptom of a part of endgame that was meant to be in since launch having been postponed. If Myth gear is iLvl 90, and Coil drops iLvl 90, then it would be reasonable to assume that while iLvl 70 might be 'gimping' your party, iLvL80, while 'not as good', would be the low-end starting point for Coil.

    If it was possible to run a dungeon that dropped iLvl 80 gear for a chance to acquire said gear as fast as or faster than it takes to grind 300 myth tomes a week, with the end result still being that you can enter CoB, then suddenly it makes sense that there's a weekly cap on myth tomes because running CoB for the same ILvl gear before you even have it would actually be possible, and the tome grind option would need to provide an equivalent wait since you can run dungeons like AK and WP more than once a week.

    If I'm not mistaken Crystal Tower is supposed to drop ilvL 80 gear.
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    Naru Whitehelm
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    OK, So you get what you want you are able to gear out ALL of your jobs however fast you want, and of course your a pro so you do this very quickly. Then What? Grind the "Current" Endgame till next patch? probably not why would you? Just to pay a repair? you have nothing left to do. So they need to Quickly release new content for the 20-40 people that finished in 2 months? and KEEP doing this every two months so you will be happy and the game is "Perfect". Only problem is about 400,000 other players are not you.
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    Krell Ynjynor
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NaruWhitehelm View Post
    OK, So you get what you want you are able to gear out ALL of your jobs however fast you want.
    i missed the part where anyone asked for this

    people are asking for more content (extrememly cheap to implement i might add), how is this bad, how does this effect you?

    or maybe you posted without reading
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    Last edited by TheRac25; 10-22-2013 at 01:44 AM.

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    Player Raiz_Cineris's Avatar
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    Raiz Cineris
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRac25 View Post
    i missed the part where anyone asked for this

    people are asking for more content (extrememly cheap to implement i might add), how is this bad, how does this effect you?

    or maybe you posted without reading
    This is not what this thread is about lol.. seriously go back under your bridge

    cheap content additions? Lol what derp world do you live in?
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