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    Player
    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon_Densetsu View Post
    How does this impact you? If people want to play twice as much, why should others care? If we can satisfy everyone, with different expectations, different playstyles, how is that not better for the game and the community overall?
    yes, people should be able to do what they want and then not be restricted by in game mechanics that don't allow them to do that, I understand this. But the fact of the matter is that most people don't have that stuff yet and get irked by hearing others complain and flood the forums about stuff like this. Furthermore... the sensationalist thread title makes the whole claim ridiculous. Once iLvl 80 gear comes out, this whole argument becomes buy estupido
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    Cycloptichorn's Avatar
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    The Cyclops
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 44
    A lie? What, then, are all these multiple classes I have?

    The game is supposed to take months to play, the restrictions are in place to KEEP you from spamming all the content quickly, they aren't going to change those restrictions, maybe just chill a bit?
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    Firescorpio Hyrrdraumr
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    OP It is like you are being purposely moronic, here's some actual information for you in regards to gearing and lies, which is all you have done with you verbal diarrhea because let's face it that's the only intelligent thing that can be said from your post.


    I have geared 3-4 classes in full dl accessories and only one class with mythology and coil gear, as it is right now the design of the game allows for that type of gearing, which is the best gear possible to access endgame content, there are a plethora of ways of obtaining it and no one will argue that someone with relic and full dl isn't capable or useful for Coil. so you point is null, you want the best gear there it is, in any other game you gear first the one character and then start from "scratch" and then you take the same time gearing it up, here whilst you play with your MAIN class you can effectively gear other classes. gearing one or more classes with rare gear it's even easier if you run a static or with your FC on something like coil (which i don't see why you would want to do it any other way) you take in 8 people from whom are all going expectedly in their best performance job, clear let's say floor 1-4 and from that gear chances are drops are going to fall that aren't mean for any of the jobs already there, if you have a secondary class already geared with relic in which you are competent you can greed for it against others essentially gearing a class, whilst clearing content with another.


    Adding to this there is going to be Crystal Tower which will be easy enough to clear through duty finder, which will drop gear lvl 80 which will essentially gear your secondary classes and here's the kicker the only content that is being locked are the maximum gear lvl 90 which SHOULD NOT be easy to obtain, why because god forbid something takes effort in this game.

    Your problem is not that the gearing multiple class play is impossible. I'm fairly satisfied with 4 classes i have geared so far they have the best gear for the uses they have and they are competent on any content to date, and the gear they have will also be relevant to help me clearing newer content from which i will gear them with better equipment, while i keep gearing my warrior and paladin, which are my MAIN classes, with top notch gear to spearhead the toughest content. I'm satisfied with this, so is any player with any common sense, you on the other hand are just a spoiled ass with the twitter/facebook mentality where you think anyone should and wants to listen to anything that you have to say.

    When in fact all you are trying to say is i have no patience i do not want to work for anything and i just want everything the moment i say it so i can say i'm the best that is a biased useless opinion. nothing more nothing else certainly not something to waste forum space for.
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    I finished all of Hoplite, all of the Darklight tanking accessories, and I only had WAR up until that point. I completed my Bravura and then decided I'd finish my PLD.

    I realized that when I dinged LV50 PLD that I only had 300 myth tomes to allot to continue progressing my tanks beyond Darklight gear, and that I'd have to pick which Job I wanted to spend tomes on for Relic +1.

    So even though I leveled Paladin up - I'm not playing it because I already finished my Bravura and already have some of iL90 gear on my Warrior.

    If I had leveled an alternative character as a Paladin - I could farm Myth on PLD, then swap to my other character and farm Myth for my WAR and I'd be able to tank for both of the groups doing Coil in my Free Company. Rather than them having to push someone into a tank role for the sake of one small portion of content which really sucks. We're given the option to level and play all the Jobs and fill all the roles in a party - why then does the game limit this functionality by locking you out of Coil, and making you prioritize which Job you're going to use with a Myth cap? It's counter-intuitive when compared with the rest of the game up that point where the more cross classed abilities and knowledge of other roles benefited you greatly.
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Why would people want a higher myth cap for AF2 if we still don't know how we get our AF2? What is if we get it with quests like the AF1?
    AF2 is still not ingame. All what we know about AF2 are some pictures from the last live letter.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-22-2013 at 06:02 AM.

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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    my drg got 2 allagan pieces today :P , no1 in my Coil party has drg lvled to 50 but me, so all drg gear is mine , same goes for other jobs gear , is greeded if u have it at 50 and no 1 in the party needs it
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    NefGP's Avatar
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    Dante Goldenpaws
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    The armory system was a novel idea back in 1.0, until it got overly simplified. Now it's more like a crappier job system than anything.


    At least in FFXI, you could use multiple weapons and gear types on different classes, and change up your sub jobs to change (sometimes dramatically) how you play your job. BLU & PUP were shining examples of this, and DRG to a lesser extent with your subjob changing your wyvern's breaths. Plus the way this game is designed, with a base class and then jobs adding a few extra skills onto that, classes like BLU just won't work all that well in this game. I have to wonder if RDM will even be feasible because of this. I have to say, given the choice I'd take FFXI's SCH over this game's anyday. SMN too, sadly...

    As much as I love that SMN doesn't suck so bad performance wise in this, the job had a lot more variety and style to it in XI. Just that game's dev team was too chicken **** to give it the buffs it needed to function.
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    Wobi's Avatar
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    Aria Erabith
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    Man I thought I played too much, but people wanting to run AK/WP for more than the allowed 300 cap are nuts. I work full time and cut into sleep to get all the things I want done, did you ever think that maybe this is SE's intention. That they literally don't care about the no-lifers, because why should they? No company wants flak for encouraging a completely unhealthy lifestyle, once one of you drops dead at the computer because you were too busy farming tomes to remember to eat. It's gated on purpose, they actually want you to invest in the job you care about and there is more than adequate gear you can obtain for your alternate classes. Just relax people, no one will be impressed by your gear, trust me.
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    Chococo Cobo
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    You know what, I suddenly thought about SE's pricing plans, 1 character or 8 characters per world. Not being able to send stuff directly across characters on the same account, what else would alts be used for. For more quotas of TOM and chances for entering coil!!!! You see, SE was encouraging this all the way from the start.
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    NefGP's Avatar
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    Dante Goldenpaws
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    lol 2+ years to hit 75 on FFXI...
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