Class Homogenization.... Why do you want it?

[eyloi]

I'd like to see BRD given more support utility to further distance the class from being just another DPS role.

My hope is that a future patch adds bard songs for group dmg increase, cast/melee speed, passive heal-over-time aura and/or defensive aura, and perhaps a few songs that act as a form of CC to better help out with add control.

[sharazisspecial]

I'd like to see BRD given more support utility to further distance the class from being just another DPS role.

My hope is that a future patch adds bard songs for group dmg increase, cast/melee speed, passive heal-over-time aura and/or defensive aura, and perhaps a few songs that act as a form of CC to better help out with add control.

More support options would suit a new job that didn't bring similar dps to the other current dps. Bards get a guaranteed slot or 2 every raid for ballad/requiem and sometimes silence.

[Mythrella]

More support options would suit a new job that didn't bring similar dps to the other current dps. Bards get a guaranteed slot or 2 every raid for ballad/requiem and sometimes silence.

I agree with the person your quoted, which is why I suggested a ranger job in another thread. Archer would have 2 options, for the support bard remove some damage in exchange for utility, and the ranger can lose some in exchange for pew pew.

More jobs! ♥

(insert plug for ninja)

[Shiyo]

This MMO has the best class balance of any MMO I've ever played and any MMO ever created. Also has the most fun imo, a shame about WHM/PLD/BARD though, those classes are realllllly boring and bland, my only other complaint is monk needs counter on fists of earth!

[Azazela]

This game already has some very homogenized and rather flavourless classes.

[eyloi]

More support options would suit a new job that didn't bring similar dps to the other current dps. Bards get a guaranteed slot or 2 every raid for ballad/requiem and sometimes silence.

Clip their damage. A support role shouldn't be anywhere near a pure dpser. Like Mythrella said, devs should consider giving them a pure dps spec, that removes a lot of their utility. This would allow the BRD class to be reconstructed as a pure support slot.

[ChaozK]

The way i see it the roles for each job are well defined
PLD: Passive Damage Mitigation Tank based on direct damage -
WAR: Reactive Mitigation tank based on HP/ DMG output
WHM: Burst/AoE heal specalist
SCH: Single target heal special/ Support
DRG: Low Skill Medium to High Damage Melee
MNK: High Skill Extremely High Damage Melee
BRD: Low to Medium DMG Ranged/Support Class
BLM: Low Skill/ Medium to High Damage Ranged
SMN: High Skill Extremely High damage Ranged.

Not to nitpick but your addressing of the dps classes is pretty off and narrowed down.
For example compare a standard SMN rotation to a standard DRG rotation. I play a lot of MNK and DRG at endgame and i can guarantee you that skill gap is very minor. Should be more like this:

DRG: Burst/off GCD based melee dps
MNK: Stance based/ sustained melee dps
BRD: ranged dps/support hybrid
BLM: Burst caster dps
SMN: Pet/DoT based caster dps

[Ryutamashiisan]

My assessment may be off on SMN since they adjusted DoT's and it's no longer a completely clusterf*ck to know when ur dots are up. But the Skill gap between MNK and DRG is VERY large the amount of adjusting it takes on DRG to maximize DPS in comparison to mnk is laughable. DRG literally has to move from side to back back to side, to optimize rotations and its highest damage roattion has no positional requirement. MNK has to contstantly move every combo in order to maximize dps, and take in mob movements on the fly and adjust accordingly and quickly while throwing non gcd's and managing greased lightning a tp. The skill gap beween MNK and DRG is insane, especially when you get into coil or even Titan. I also should have mentioned BRD is low skill as well.

Also mnk is far more position based then stance based, position is absolutely everything

[ChaozK]

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I dont know which rotation you are talking about but literally every DRG rotation starts at least with a flank (heavy thrust). I think the main difficulty of MNK comes from keeping up buffs like twin snakes rather than positioning. Positioning is fairly straight forward on both classes at endgame, with DRG you start off with a flank buff, place your DOTs and then do you Rear combo for Chaos Thrust and disembowel. With Monk its fairly similar, you place your ToD then work mainly from flank to place all your buffs and DOTs (Twin, DK and Demolish) and once thats done you rotate your basic BS combo which rotates rears and flanks depending on whether you need to refresh TS or DK.

Pretty much both classes run from rear to flank the whole fight. I dont have much trouble with that on either class.

[Ryutamashiisan]

True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Full thrust is drgs highest potency combo and has 0 positional requirements, will do optimal damage from anywhere once you transition from flank to rear combo you can stay there or move or move infront of the mob it doesn't matter. If the mob turns mid combo it doesn't present a problem. If the mob moves as you pop off Snap punch you loose 80 potency and most of its dmg. Mnk has 3 dots to manage Demolish Touch of Death and Fracture, 2 of which are off combo cooldown,along with your non GCD's .If a mob runs out range it doesn't mean a darn thing to drgs buffs so long as they get in range before combo expires, monk can loose greased lighting, the basis of its dps in a heartbeat. You have to constantly flux your combos depending on the mobs movements and attacks, if your combos are static 100% of the time there's a bigger issue at hand. Its all the same on training dummies but the skill gap is much larger on actual endgame mobs.