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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Can you elaborate on that a bit?

    ID+ID+ID = 180+180+180
    compare that to
    BS+true+SP

    BS>ID in terms of dps due to the guaranteed crit
    SP=ID both are 180

    So it boils down to the question can the 30 extra potency from ID>TrueS compensate for the dmg loss on BS and the 5% lower crit chance? I think this should be really close. Honest question.
    Assuming you have 12% crit chance



    So ID rotation is slightly better, but cost way more TP.
    The BS/TrS roation is more TP efficient, but you lack of windows to refresh ToD/Fracture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Almalexia posts a great comparison
    Please ...
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    Last edited by Rapiso; 10-22-2013 at 12:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    The BS/TrS roation is more TP efficient, but you lack of windows to refresh ToD/Fracture.
    What? The ID rotation is MUCH tighter. Not only have you not refreshed the Twin Snakes buff with one cycle, but you haven't refreshed GL3 either.
    With BS/TrS, you may drop the 10% buff. With ID, you WILL lose GL3.
    If you take off one ID to give time for dots, the ID rotation loses its dps advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    What? The ID rotation is MUCH tighter. Not only have you not refreshed the Twin Snakes buff with one cycle, but you haven't refreshed GL3 either.
    With BS/TrS, you may drop the 10% buff. With ID, you WILL lose GL3.
    ? Okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    If you take off one ID to give time for dots, the ID rotation loses its dps advantage.
    Have you done the math ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    ? Okay.



    Have you done the math ?
    No, but on a basic comparison level - the difference between ID and, say DK (the next ability in the cycle), is more than 10%. The BS-TrS loses about 15 potency from applying a dot. I know there's more involved than that but I can't see the ID losing less than 15 potency when taking out an ID from the rotation.

    I'd love to see it properly simulated though.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 10-22-2013 at 02:29 AM.