Wanderer's Palace Discrimation

[PSxpert2011]

Any Monks here also facing discrimination for this? This may apply to SMN / DRG and for AK too. Its always "LF BARD/BLM DPS" in shout, fc, or LS. It takes me hours to find a party but even that, I'm constantly getting kicked in WP after 1 run.

Why is everyone here mad at me? (Except 1 or 2) I was stating the unfairness..


You don't even know me in RL. I'm 15 so I do free time. I don't want to see a person with 5 level 50s saying that.

I apologize, your right, I don't know you but I was totally unclear who I was directing the comment to. Not to you but to the "speed freaks" who think racing through dungeons will make things better.

I support your OP, PPL shouldn't "poo-poo" someone else's game!
I'm a Monk too and I approve this thread!

[Yshnal]

Greetings,

Though this will not really address the core discussion in this thread (apologies for deviating the topic slightly), I've been noticing here and in other locations that players are calling the use of the boss rooms to lock monsters out an exploit. Just to clarify, the development team is of course aware from a specification standpoint about the strategies for Wanderer’s Palace (and other places) that involve using boss rooms to lock out regular monsters, and they have no specific plans to address this currently. In the future there is the possibility that this changes; however, we’ll be keeping it the way it currently is for now.

Please understand that using this strategy is not in any violation of rules and you will not be subject to penalties for playing this way.

Please, don't take this as a complaint, but what makes that any different from those speedruns that made you change Amdapor Keep some time ago? Just curious to know what has changed >.<

I'm talking about this. In my opinion, locking monsters behind the boss room's wall is actually even worse than tank suicide, and that's why I'm asking if something has changed as to make you decide to keep this one as it is.

[Luso]

Please, don't take this as a complaint, but what makes that any different from those speedruns that made you change Amdapor Keep some time ago? Just curious to know what has changed >.<
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The noticeable difference between the previous AK speed runs and current wp is that most of the trash is being killed legitimately. The previous AK speed runs just skipped large portions of the dungeon by training the monsters and hiding. WP monsters are being killed quickly with a few being locked out. Also, the door triggers are still being activated by parties in wp speed running.

[zdub303]

@Alyko... sure if its a competition. We're not trying to break any records here. Finishing in 17m vs 15m is not going to make or break anyone's night. You only need 5 WPs to cap after Turns 1, 2, and 4. So the total time saved between god tier 10m runs and a 17m run is about half an hour per week. Is that really worth class discrimination? Shit I probably get 2 runs finished in the time it takes people to put together that 'god tier' group.

[Tribunus]

Meh done a 12 min WP as MNK quite a few times although group compisition helps it certainly doesnt change much, perhaps you should stop playing with bads.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

oh that nice, i always do Speed Run on WP with my trusted FC/LS mates, and sometime even teach them if they want to. Else i still do regular runs sometime, but like wise there are times that i will have to Speed Run it several times because of reset ><

And yet again, forums keep bashing Elitist when there are also ppl OUT THERE that use this and are not Elitist Jerks at all. And completely screwing us over who dont even bother with Elitist jerks and kept to our self.

[mr_wazzabi]

If I get DF wp group with MNK I would instant quit . rather take a 15 min debuff and watch TV than group with MNK .

ignorant deuchebag

[billydata21]

Very surprised that they are not going to change this. Doing WP in 12 mins with that lock out is what i've been doing. I mean I guess i'm happy that we can keep doing 12 min runs but i'm just surprised lol.

[jewlz83]

Any Monks here also facing discrimination for this? This may apply to SMN / DRG and for AK too. Its always "LF BARD/BLM DPS" in shout, fc, or LS. It takes me hours to find a party but even that, I'm constantly getting kicked in WP after 1 run. My average runs are 25 minutes and even my fc's officers kicked me bc the runs are supposed to take 10 minutes. I'm using the 50 and 130 potency aoes but seems like it's not enough apparently.

i play with any one! some want blm mostly for speed runs i have never seen any asking for bards i would happily go with ANY melee class i enjoy the run

[Bufkus]

Please, don't take this as a complaint, but what makes that any different from those speedruns that made you change Amdapor Keep some time ago? Just curious to know what has changed >.<

I'm talking about this. In my opinion, locking monsters behind the boss room's wall is actually even worse than tank suicide, and that's why I'm asking if something has changed as to make you decide to keep this one as it is.

That sounds like a big massive complaint to me. And who cares if it's not any different from other speedruns that they changed? they should have never "fixed" Amdapor Keep in the first place.