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  1. #61
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    Rainsford's Avatar
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    Snuggles Unicorn
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Troggy View Post
    Are all of these scholars forgetting that you need accuracy? Your gear has no accuracy. If you buy Vanya, you're wasting materia just to get somewhat kinda close to the cap, where I can spend that materia on +Crit or +Det or other DD stats.
    You only need accuracy in Coil. I don't think anyone's suggesting that SCH are viable DPS there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    People overrated Selene, her sspd buff is mediocre at best.
    Erm, it cuts my SCH's GCD by .15, and my SS is relatively low compared to the skill speed/spell speed of the geared DPS I run with.

    So, napkin math, but assuming it's a blanket .15 drop in GCD, you're looking at about a 7-8% increase in skill usage rate? So, if we consider the buffs alternate every 30 seconds, it's about a 4% DPS increase, imaging you have equal numbers of DoW and DoM classes?

    Again, napkin math, but that's like giving everyone a Relic + 2. And that's essentially "free".
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  2. #62
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    Virtual On
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainsford View Post
    You only need accuracy in Coil. I don't think anyone's suggesting that SCH are viable DPS there.
    If you don't get the gear that will potentially have ACC on it(iLVL 70 crafted), you're still going to be behind because all healer gear has piety, and one offensive substat.



    Quote Originally Posted by Rainsford View Post
    Erm, it cuts my SCH's GCD by .15, and my SS is relatively low compared to the skill speed/spell speed of the geared DPS I run with.

    So, napkin math, but assuming it's a blanket .15 drop in GCD, you're looking at about a 7-8% increase in skill usage rate? So, if we consider the buffs alternate every 30 seconds, it's about a 4% DPS increase, imaging you have equal numbers of DoW and DoM classes?

    Again, napkin math, but that's like giving everyone a Relic + 2. And that's essentially "free".

    Increase in skill usage is not a direct correlation to DPS. That is, using more skills doesn't give a defined amount of DPS. You have to find what you're using the extra skill usage on.
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    Last edited by Kevee; 10-25-2013 at 07:58 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
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    Even when my SCH was undergeared, I never missed outside of Coil.

    And sure, like I said, napkin math. But Selene is the games only support-haste of any type, and the skills are more useful than Eos's, which are completely unnecessary unless you're severely undergeared for a fight.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainsford View Post
    Even when my SCH was undergeared, I never missed outside of Coil.
    I was referring to not having a second substat. DPS gear has 2 of det/crit/spell speed. Healer gear has piety and then one of det/crit/spell speed.

    So unless you get the gear that will have ACC anyways, you're locked out of a second DPS substat and are even further behind.
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