Please nerf Holy.

[Molkoh]

Wow, leave holy alone, if you nerf holy anymore than it is I think I'll never even go into cleric stance. SCH needs like an AOE DOT or something but thats it.

Isn't that what shadow flare is? Forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought that is what that spell did. o wo

[JonFarron]

Isn't that what shadow flare is? Forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought that is what that spell did. o wo

It also slows =D

[Kryzen]

OMG Holy is so freaking OP. My favorite dungeon set up is me (pld), bard, whm, sch.
I will pull a massive group of mobs and just spam flash. Brd runs mp regen and whm spams holy. Sch just heals through everything and on boss fights the SCH just dps and the fairy can pretty much keep me up no problem by itself.

[BrodyAlgana]

I think they should nerf jumps, kicks, sword hits, fire spells, DoTs... (please read with sarcasm) Why are we talking about nerfing DPS spells on a healer class? Wait, why are we talking nerf anything?

[Louro999]

WHM full Mind, with DL and relic +1: Holy without any kind of buff = 700 damage and can use it 15 times before oom
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Flare with no astral fire buff = 600 damage and 0 MP left (1100 dmg if AF III)
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Blizzard II with Umbral III ~250 damage, spammable
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Fire II with Astral Fire III ~450 damage, usable 3-4 times

Something is clearly wrong with Holy. I don't think the WHM was designed to be the best AoE dps class in the game.

[Eriane]

Where are you getting your numbers from? I have full crafted ilvl 70 HQ vanya and dl with relic plus 1 and i still see hits for under 600. I also have 4k mana and at over 500 mana a pop i'm not getting 15 holys out before i go oom.

Try harder.

[rocheetbombe]

WHM full Mind, with DL and relic +1: Holy without any kind of buff = 700 damage and can use it 15 times before oom
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Flare with no astral fire buff = 600 damage and 0 MP left (1100 dmg if AF III)
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Blizzard II with Umbral III ~250 damage, spammable
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Fire II with Astral Fire III ~450 damage, usable 3-4 times

Something is clearly wrong with Holy. I don't think the WHM was designed to be the best AoE dps class in the game.

I think you messed up your math.

[Kirathu]

Omg my class Need moar luv plxplx NOT!

[Phai]

If you've been running Wanderer's Palace as of late, you'll know how much better WHM is compared to SCH.

SCH needs a decent direct damage AoE. SCH DPS is far too DoT heavy, meaning you can't dance in-and-out of Cleric Stance.

What they need to do is simply turn Holy into a DoT.

1: u want to nerf holy based on WP that everyone speedruns and are mostly op geard for?

2: whm need DD spells also for grinding, solo quests etc?

3: when conten is more on grp's gear lvl (or endgame) doesent whm need to use most of mp on healing?

Seems to me that if some ppl find one situation where one class migth be better than another, they go and scream nerf everywhere

[Kryzen]

1: u want to nerf holy based on WP that everyone speedruns and are mostly op geard for?

Seems to me that if some ppl find one situation where one class migth be better than another, they go and scream nerf everywhere

7 whm + 1 PLD can beat the living piss out of titan faster then most pre-mades