Please nerf Holy.

[JonFarron]

If you've been running Sastasha as of late, you'll know how much better THM is compared to CNJ.

CNJ needs a decent way to keep infinite MP. Umbral Ice allows a THM with Cure equipped to heal endlessly, without regard to MP issues.

What they need to do is simply turn Umbral Ice into a vanity minion that follow you around.

Please tell me you're trolling.

[Weltende]

Please tell me you're trolling.

All I can say is you've probably never speedrunned Sastasha otherwise you'd appreciate the difference.

The main issue here is not being able to dance in and out of Umbral Ice and the massive rechage time for a CNJ MP pool.

All they need to do is change Umbral Ice into a delicious ham sandwich.

[Nullie]

All they need to do is change Umbral Ice into a delicious ham sandwich.

Thank you for that much needed laugh. +1 for you~

[Freakiie]

Thank you for that much needed laugh. +1 for you~

He already had me at the "All I can say is you've probably never speedrunned Sastasha otherwise you'd appreciate the difference." part.

[kidxdynamite]

This thread is going places 10/10 on that note bring back sacred prism and We can talk about who's OP

[Bufkus]

People who selfishly demand nerfs sicken me.

[BrodyAlgana]

I think they should nerf jumps, kicks, sword hits, fire spells, DoTs... (please read with sarcasm) Why are we talking about nerfing DPS spells on a healer class? Wait, why are we talking nerf anything?

[Louro999]

WHM full Mind, with DL and relic +1: Holy without any kind of buff = 700 damage and can use it 15 times before oom
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Flare with no astral fire buff = 600 damage and 0 MP left (1100 dmg if AF III)
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Blizzard II with Umbral III ~250 damage, spammable
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Fire II with Astral Fire III ~450 damage, usable 3-4 times

Something is clearly wrong with Holy. I don't think the WHM was designed to be the best AoE dps class in the game.

[Eriane]

Where are you getting your numbers from? I have full crafted ilvl 70 HQ vanya and dl with relic plus 1 and i still see hits for under 600. I also have 4k mana and at over 500 mana a pop i'm not getting 15 holys out before i go oom.

Try harder.

[rocheetbombe]

WHM full Mind, with DL and relic +1: Holy without any kind of buff = 700 damage and can use it 15 times before oom
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Flare with no astral fire buff = 600 damage and 0 MP left (1100 dmg if AF III)
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Blizzard II with Umbral III ~250 damage, spammable
BLM full Int, with DL and relic +1: Fire II with Astral Fire III ~450 damage, usable 3-4 times

Something is clearly wrong with Holy. I don't think the WHM was designed to be the best AoE dps class in the game.

I think you messed up your math.