Please nerf Holy.

[Weltende]

Holy is great in TWP, AK, and a few similar instances that are the absolute fringe of endgame (that is actually being polite, probably) and it is pretty much only great when your group out-gears the instance by a large margin.

It also has some niche application during Turn 4, but that doesn't keep scholars from getting invited to that. Somehow I suspect that this fact wasn't a consideration when this thread was made, anyway.

If changing Holy makes people happy then that won't make doing my job any harder so, by all means, go for it. I'm just a bit puzzled as to why we have a ten page thread about this of all things rather than addressing the inability to stack adloquium, or the relative power of stacked regen effects, etc. I actually thought this thread was an elaborate ruse initially. Was I wrong?

[testa889]

wow.. just wow .. i have both whm and sch on 50 running WP , and so what WHM runs faster on WP ? sch runs faster on AK. it is just this one instance, and you have to have overgear to do those speedrun.

try that with a AF group and let me know the result.

oh, WAR can spam overpower & instant TP 300 recover, plus, they can getting buffed on 2.1 !? WHAT?

but why would i ask to nerf my party members , seriously.
if you see a light party of full WHM could speedrun all dungeons, then raise a thread for it.

healers are doing fine .....

[Noctrin]

This thread.. this thread is a joke. Right..?

[Pentt]

SCH dps is comparable to WHM on 3-4 mobs. Complaining that WHM have higher dps on 5+ mobs is kind of petty, I guess you just want WHM to not do dps at all in AoE situations?

Never seen so much complaint over an ability to used to farm, that is also useless on most progression fights due to mana constraints.

[Raminax]

Phoenix must be a pretty bad World, because I'm not seeing any of these WP Relic groups going "LF White Mage for AoE DPS!" or "Tank LF 3 WHMs to speedrun WP".

Not that I've played my White Mage in a fairly long amount of time. 21 runs and counting for the Darklight Kite Shield. -_-

[Vyserion]

Clerics Stance.
Shadow Flare.
Dots on Tonberry. Bane. (Needs to be fixed to apply dots to ALL targets in range)
Miasma II.
Tab Aero.

Is it harder? Yes. Scholar is a harder class than WHM. If you don't like it, finish leveling your Conjurer.

[Trystan]

Dont forget.... Scholar can and *should* use SELENE on a Speedrun. (When we talk speedrun we talk experienced players who know the dungeon) Half the time 30% Spellspeed-Increase for the party, the other half 30% Skillspeed-Increase for the party. Plus Shadow Flare.
That does increase DPS a lot - and that doesnt even include the Scholars own skills to DPS.

[Bridgeburner]

Scholar is a harder class than WHM.

Sure is hard watching the Fairy heal for you.

[Arale]

Clerics Stance.
Shadow Flare.
Dots on Tonberry. Bane. (Needs to be fixed to apply dots to ALL targets in range)
Miasma II.
Tab Aero.

Is it harder? Yes. Scholar is a harder class than WHM. If you don't like it, finish leveling your Conjurer.

Lol coming from a class that has no MP issues or hate issues as well as a fairy to backup heal, mm yes SCH sure is harder then WHM.

[Soukyuu]

Personally, I'm one of the scholars who "brag" about not having to even leave Cleric Stance. I don't see why holy would have to be nerfed, it's like the only spike dps skill WHMs have.

Lol coming from a class that has no MP issues or hate issues as well as a fairy to backup heal, mm yes SCH sure is harder then WHM.

...are you a WHM? Cause fairy isn't "backup heal", it's half of your healing potency.
It's a class whose healing is designed around the synergy with the fairy. Try to heal without her, and you will run out of mp, Aetherflow or not, just like WHMs without ballad.