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    azethoth's Avatar
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    Zemus Asara
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    Houses obtained Via Auctions? Not a good idea or fun

    I was surprised to see that all houses are obtained via auctions and that for whatever reason there will be a limited supply that will be increased over time.

    Why? What purpose does this serve.
    My FC does not sell titan runs( I have no problem with FCs selling runs) and given that on Balmung those are going for 500k a pop, and today a FC did 22 of them. Thats 11,000,000 gil Today alone. They do this every day. Smaller companies cannot compete with that amount of gil generation.
    How are the smaller companies going to get the Large house should they desire that when the way to acquire one is via auction. It could cost 1gil(of course not) or 600 million gil at auction.
    Having a fixed price for a house is the better way. Even if it is 100 million, the smaller companies know what to work for. It was a bad idea when Aion did it and it is still a bad idea now.
    Further artificial scarcity? There is no technological reason why there should be a limit to housing availability. If eq2 could do guild housing right in 2008 ish so can this game. Guild halls in that game were huge and were available to anyone with the money to walk to the gate and buy one. No auction, just yes I'll take one. Individual Player housing was done in this same fashion.
    I urge the devs to rethink the auction and artificial scarcity. Do this right.
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    Q: As there are differences in economies from World to World, will the housing costs differ by World?
    A: It will be the same for all Worlds. The land for housing will be an auction system, and will start from a high price and over time will become cheaper.

    I have no problem with the auction system because it is a reverse auction system. If the land sits on the auction house for days, the price will gradually begin to fall. So it won't be going over the price, it will be going under. Now, you may not see super cheap land for housing at first, but over time once people buy their land you could see it more often.
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    Zobi
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    Is there a limit to how many houses a person can have or company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zobi View Post
    Q: As there are differences in economies from World to World, will the housing costs differ by World?
    A: It will be the same for all Worlds. The land for housing will be an auction system, and will start from a high price and over time will become cheaper.

    I have no problem with the auction system because it is a reverse auction system. If the land sits on the auction house for days, the price will gradually begin to fall. So it won't be going over the price, it will be going under. Now, you may not see super cheap land for housing at first, but over time once people buy their land you could see it more often.
    People who can't afford the land but want it "now" and can't wait will be all over the place trying to buy currency.
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    Since I'm not the owner of a FC I will not be putting to much "Gil" into a FC house. Sometimes crap happens people get mad leave and disband this is not true for everyone but I have seen enough already. Now when individual housing comes I'm going balls to the wall on that.
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    I am aware that it is the land that is auctioned, but without land no house. So land = House.
    Semantics aside. They can price it high, but the price should be fixed. If I bid the exact price of the plot that does not mean I win and now own land. Nope someone can come along and out bid me 3-4-5 fold, because they can. This is just another strike against them for implementing good things in bad ways. Granted there are housing auctions, but most houses are bought by the seller saying, Give me X amount. You can either say here is X gimme, or how about X-Y.
    First its the dye system. You cannot dye anything that you would truly want to wear. Next is melding. Cannot meld if there is no materia slots makes sense until you see over melding. If I can shove 5 where there is only 1 slot why cant I shove 5 or 3 where there are no slots. They take good ideas and twist them into monstrosities.
    Honestly though artificial scarcity is the real problem. Do away with that at the very least.

    As the poster above said about RMT. I can see artificial scarcity leading into RMT for land plots.
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    The other thing that's unfortunate is that the FC's that have been selling Titan runs will be loaded for this, and the ones that are less...commercial... will be at a disadvantage.
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    this just means big bucks for RMT imo
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    I refuse to get worked up over these type of things anymore.

    Let the rich fc's compensate with their Hummer and brand new housing.

    Me, I'll be content to wait until they've all spent their money and buy my plot of land on the cheap a couple of weeks later.
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    Why do people care so much about a virtual house? lolololol
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