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  1. #1
    Player
    KiriA500's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Doctor Beatbox
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    I don't think people understand that with the repeating stuff, they we're able to create a huge single zone, with different monsters at each crossing.

    Now thats just not possible anymore.
    Everything has to be "unique"
    You mean five, uninspired zones with clusters of mobs sprinkled around the lack of any landmarks to differentiate them from other parts of the same zone.
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    Mocha Leporina
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    You mean five, uninspired zones with clusters of mobs sprinkled around the lack of any landmarks to differentiate them from other parts of the same zone.
    This post is an example of everything that is currently wrong with MMO zone design right now. Not every single inch of space needs to be unique or have a purpose. In fact, when trying to create a sense of scale, quite the opposite is true.
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    This post is an example of everything that is currently wrong with MMO zone design right now. Not every single inch of space needs to be unique or have a purpose. In fact, when trying to create a sense of scale, quite the opposite is true.
    It's quite possible to give things a sense of scale without having them just be copy/pasted terrain. It just takes proper development, which 1.0 did not have.

    Essentially, what you're saying is the top picture is better than the bottom picture, simply because it has more stuff on it, regardless of quality.




    Remember, "not every single inch of space needs to be unique or have a purpose."
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    Last edited by KiriA500; 10-20-2013 at 10:20 PM.

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    Tort Tiah
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    While I didn't play xi or 1.0, I really want NMs
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    On Coerthas: We've only seen Central Coerthas so far, in 1.0 there were four other areas to the zone, though some of them may be gone for good from what I can tell (the map and story suggest the western and southern sections might be gone), although there are meant to be four Vigils and one of them should be to the west iirc. Griffin Crossing is still there and could very easily lead to another section of Coerthas, although that area should lead to The Black Shroud, although the zone has moved (it was the northern most point of North Shroud before, now its more towards the west). There's also the north eastern section as well. So, while Central Coerthas might be a snowy wasteland, the other sections could be more true to the original zone, given how varied all the other regions generally are; The Howling Eye wasn't exactly snowy, after all (though I have no idea where that is meant to be exactly...).
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    Gridania
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 72
    Hmm I just miss Anima system and Inventory sort and being able to buy specific number of items from a seller rather than buy the whole stack. Ohhh and the ability to change how retainers look. But then again not much of a point here since you people cant see your retainers.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ryu Gier
    World
    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    What do I miss? Those unused areas in a large map filled with level 70+ mobs that served no purpose other than to make you wish you didn't explore it. Oh look a pond! It has a lvl 80 Marlboro in it! Now you can't go back the way you came because that lvl 65 Ahriman is blocking your path now. Or running around Mor Dhona and seeing the lvl 99 Ogres and shitting yourself.
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    T'zima Narki
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    Coeurl
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    Botanist Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Reokudo View Post
    What do I miss? Those unused areas in a large map filled with level 70+ mobs that served no purpose other than to make you wish you didn't explore it. Oh look a pond! It has a lvl 80 Marlboro in it!
    OMG lol Thank you sir, I am laughing my arse off!
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    Bear Wintry
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I miss the original version of the conjurer, my goobbue, the sprawling empty expanse of the Twelvewoods where running into another player in the field was a rare but pleasant surprise, and walking up a hill from an area with level 20 monsters only to have a level 50+ pop up two feet from you... OK maybe not that last one so much, though it was funny the first time.

    And like several people have said already the ferry trips.
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    Marael Meowington
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Excuse me while I be a shallow sexist douche, but I miss my Miqote's ass... *sigh*
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