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  1. #1
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    Stuff I Miss From 1.0

    While I love 2.0 a lot, there's seriously enough stuff that it's balances out the stuff I miss... but I still wish I had it because it made the game so different from other mmos.

    * The free style armour system we had, because if you found something you liked, you could wear it, even if it was 20 levels higher than you. Sure you didn't get the stats from the armour, but that was a nice trade off.

    * Actually traveling by boat from Thanalan to LimLom and not by cutscene.

    * Fishing on the boat in the point above. Did I catch anything? Sometimes... but that wasn't the point.

    *The open world... I remember than you could travel on those stone pathways above that cavern area outside of Horizon. You could get lost in the world... LimLom was larger if only because it took longer to get outside the city. I'm pretty sure there were invisible walls all over the place, but I don't remember running into any. 2.0? You can't turn around without hitting one.

    * The ink-black skin that Moonkeeper Miqote could have.


    I know, I know, there was a lot of badly done stuff and irritating features that made it feel more like a batsu (punishment) game than something you played for fun, and realistically the bad out-weighed the good... but I can't help but wishing I had the above features back.
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    The optimal armor system was dumb. I can't take this post seriously.
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    Oh I have a ton!

    Like... uh...

    um...

    :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    The optimal armor system was dumb. I can't take this post seriously.
    The optimal armour system wasn't fundamentally dumb, it just wasn't properly balanced. At all. Plenty of games have proven systems like that work perfectly well with the right balancing but sadly the rush to launch v1.0 just.. didn't allow for that. Still at least we'll be getting that dress pattern setup soon-ish..

    As for me? Well, despite the inevitable spitefulness is going to come from people on account of it apparently just being.. 'fun' to hate on the original without bothering to think why Yoshida and co. kept the things they did..

    Well, I do miss the combat, even in its oldest form. I also desperately miss the original mystery driven format of the main scenario - it's fairly obvious most of the stuff we're just told at the start was actually plot twists originally (like Hydaelyn being sentient and the source of the Echo, for instance).

    The old Coerthas was certainly nicer I think.. and I Really miss the old Lalafell walk, although the new run is alright. The race-specific armour designs are also a horrid loss.

    Beyond that? The original main scenario format was more my style, too. It was a bit far toward the hapless bystander for the main character sure, but at least it tried to make you feel like you were part of the game world. The new one on the other hand is obsessed with setting you apart from it, constantly shrieking about how awesome and special you are, even going so far as to lie with things like claiming you beat party-only bosses single-handedly.

    I also miss the original designs for the game that were never realised at all, but.. I guess looking back we know now that the problems with the engine would never have allowed for a lot of those things; not without Hiromichi Tanaka getting the same rebuild opportunity Yoshida did.

    Oh and the old animations. I don't buy the 'necessary for gameplay' argument they offered in the least. Simple overrides would have solved that. No, it was budgeting reasons - probably in the long term especially.

    For the record though? I still blame Wada for basically everything wrong with the original launch, even if Tanaka and Kitase did screw up a fair bit. The buck stopped with him, he had the power to veto the launch, and his track record suggests he was behind a lot of the lies about the game and all. It's.. I'm glad he got fired in the end, even if he did manage to scapegoat the blame for the v1.0 debacle on anyone besides himself.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 10-20-2013 at 06:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fensfield View Post
    The optimal armour system wasn't fundamentally dumb, it just wasn't properly balanced. At all. Plenty of games have proven systems like that work perfectly well with the right balancing but sadly the rush to launch v1.0 just.. didn't allow for that. Still at least we'll be getting that dress pattern setup soon-ish..

    As for me? Well, despite the inevitable spitefulness is going to come from people on account of it apparently just being.. 'fun' to hate on the original without bothering to think why Yoshida and co. kept the things they did..

    Well, I do miss the combat, even in its oldest form. I also desperately miss the original mystery driven format of the main scenario - it's fairly obvious most of the stuff we're just told at the start was actually plot twists originally (like Hydaelyn being sentient and the source of the Echo, for instance).

    The old Coerthas was certainly nicer I think.. and I Really miss the old Lalafell walk, although the new run is alright. The race-specific armour designs are also a horrid loss.

    Beyond that? The original main scenario format was more my style, too. It was a bit far toward the hapless bystander for the main character sure, but at least it tried to make you feel like you were part of the game world. The new one on the other hand is obsessed with setting you apart from it, constantly shrieking about how awesome and special you are, even going so far as to lie with things like claiming you beat party-only bosses single-handedly.

    I also miss the original designs for the game that were never realised at all, but.. I guess looking back we know now that the problems with the engine would never have allowed for a lot of those things; not without Hiromichi Tanaka getting the same rebuild opportunity Yoshida did.

    Oh and the old animations. I don't buy the 'necessary for gameplay' argument they offered in the least. Simple overrides would have solved that. No, it was budgeting reasons - probably in the long term especially.

    For the record though? I still blame Wada for basically everything wrong with the original launch, even if Tanaka and Kitase did screw up a fair bit. The buck stopped with him, he had the power to veto the launch, and his track record suggests he was behind a lot of the lies about the game and all. It's.. I'm glad he got fired in the end, even if he did manage to scapegoat the blame for the v1.0 debacle on anyone besides himself.
    Agreed with all of the above, save the last part concerning blaming Wada. I think the push to launch was a mistake made by a lot of top level people, and I'm not sure it's fair to try to place the blame soley on one person, be it Tanaka or Wada or anyone else.

    There was so much in the original launch that was very obviously unfinished, but 1.0 had a very real charm to that is, bizarrely, missing completely from 2.0. I'm enjoying myself, sure....but given the choice, I would have taken a re-realization of Tanaka's original vision over what we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Agreed with all of the above, save the last part concerning blaming Wada. I think the push to launch was a mistake made by a lot of top level people, and I'm not sure it's fair to try to place the blame soley on one person, be it Tanaka or Wada or anyone else.

    There was so much in the original launch that was very obviously unfinished, but 1.0 had a very real charm to that is, bizarrely, missing completely from 2.0. I'm enjoying myself, sure....but given the choice, I would have taken a re-realization of Tanaka's original vision over what we have now.
    No, no you probably are right and I'm just being kind of bitter.. if anything I'm probably just reacting to the fashion of blaming Tanaka for everything by turning it about and blaming it on Yoichi Wada.

    But that said it really isn't hard - Wada's behavior was just so.. generally questionable and dishonest x.x 'Call of Duty's business model is what the Final Fantasy brand needs!' .. good lord >.> I know I oughtn't blame it all on one fellow, but when he .. and admittedly everyone else, made so little effort to clarify the situation when the community decided that Tanaka was the root of all evil?

    I mean, how many people are aware that a great deal of the engine problems were the responsibility of Yoshinori Kitase's team, who'd been placed under executive pressure to work on other 'higher priority' projects and thus forced to submit an imperfect modification of Crystal Tools? Which itself caused the actual development team under Tanaka to lose months on account of just plain.. not having an engine to work with.

    But you are right, however much I dislike Yoichi Wada I suppose it really isn't right to level all the blame on him, just as it's not fair to jump on the 'lol Tanaka never did anything good EVAR' bandwagon.

    .. So anyway, yes, one of the likes on your post is from me. >.> And I certainly agree completely with that second line.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 10-21-2013 at 03:51 AM.
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    I didn't read this entire thread, so forgive me if it was mentioned, but I miss the dreams/nightmares you could have while waking up in your inn.... and the hourglass biscuits and things you would get if you checked the bed.... the little things.

    And I have to agree, I really love crafting in ARR, and had 9,999 shards of most elements from 1.0, which have now dwindled away mostly, and mining and/or gathering them now isn't any fun.
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    1.0 Coerthas was far superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recycler View Post
    1.0 Coerthas was far superior.
    all my agree's , I wish i could somehow go to the old coerthas ingame Dx i miss it so much. Coerthas now isnt sootheing at all its depressing and i hate going there
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaLollipop View Post
    all my agree's , I wish i could somehow go to the old coerthas ingame Dx i miss it so much. Coerthas now isnt sootheing at all its depressing and i hate going there
    Totally agree, every time I zoning there I try to ride a mount just to avoid the it's music.
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