Thread: Stuff I Miss From 1.0

Originally Posted by Fensfield

Well to continue the little divergence..

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Why not come up with a reason for the non-racial-standard character names and the like? Forra here I RP'd from the start as being foreign, hyuran-raised and thus named peculiarly. It's fed his character all sorts of development o.o
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A simple "This is my alias, not my real name" will suffice.

On topic, I miss:
1. War's overpowered Steel Cyclone...
2. Ability to buy any number of items from a stack on a retainer
3. The vast zones (even if they are repetitive)
4. The green and pastoral Coerthas
5. Brutal path to get a relic weapon.
6. Nael's battle.
7. The challenge that was crafting.

First, sorry for the wall of text. ^^;

Originally Posted by Vaen

Can you explain what you miss from 1.0 crafting? I love crafting and I did plenty of it in 1.0, but I can't see how what we have now is anything but a huge improvement. (Well, the economy/power of crafting items might be worse in some ways, but the actual crafting SYSTEM is only 100% improved imo)

2.0 crafting is still not a simple task, there's so many skills to choose from and effective ways to go about it. It's a complicated and challenging system. But unlike 1.0's crafting, we have so much more control and transparency with crafting. Things are less frustrating to make and HQ, and overall the system seems a lot more fun to me now.

When we first got to try the new crafting system in ARR, I thought, "Wow! This is great!"
The system involves more skill than luck and if I have a good rotation and pay attention to what's happening with the synthesis, I can regularly HQ something.

But in my opinion the problems with the crafting system are now:
- It's actually TOO easy to HQ something even from NQ ingredients.
- Therefore NQ items are often worthless unless they are just throw away pieces.
- There isn't much worth crafting in the first place because:
... - All your mid-level gear is handed to you through quests.
... - Endgame pieces are overpriced in terms of tomestones, and questionable on whether or not they're worth it compared to Darklight and Allagan pieces.

v1 crafting was more heavily influenced by RNG, and it could be frustrating for sure. I had to bite my lip and stifle a scream at times. But I can't tell you how happy I was when I HQ'ed my Felt Robe and Felt Hat when those recipes first became available.

And seeing someone with 3, 4, or OMG 5! materia on an item was awesome. In v1 I never got more than 3 materia on anything because I was too scared to blow it up and lose the item after that. I looked at people with quad or quintuple melds in awe.

And even before that when we had +1, +2, and +3 items... +3 was really special and something you could treasure.

I know I sound like I have major gear envy now, but I don't think that's the case...
There was just a lot more to strive for in v1 around crafting and items in general, and I simply miss that desire to want to progress and get better.

Now everyone has Darklight, AF2, Relic +1, or HQ everything with 4 or 5 materia on it... and they are standing around town saying "I'm bored" just 2 months after release.


Side rant
It is just too ridiculously easy to get a crafting class up to level 50 in ARR.

While it took weeks or months to go to level 50 in v1 (and would give you a decent sense of satisfaction when you hit level cap), it now takes a day or so or running back and forth between the levequest NPC, market boards and hand-in NPC.

Yesterday I just capped Armorer, which was my last crafting class to level. I went from level 34 to level 50 in just 1 day plus got the level 50 quest tool -- and that was even spending the time to make everything myself rather than simply buying it off the market boards.
(for the record, I leveled 6 out of 8 to max or very close to max during v1 and never botted any of it)

The whole time while I was near the hand-in NPC crafting what I needed, a bunch of people were running back and forth to turn in leves and going up in level like crazy. Before I would actually congratulate strangers when they hit level 50... now it's just kind of depressing.

Overall, I think crafting has been completely devalued in ARR.

I've lost the will to keep playing 2.0 for a while so I decided to watch some videos I recorded of 1.0-1.23 (about 42TB altogether...) and start adding things that I notice, lol.

First off, I miss unique and fun ways to play the game without having every class/job put into a cookie cutter roll.

For example, I had forgotten that Conjurer could tank the majority of 1.0's content, hold hate, and solo heal all at the same time (depending on if the DDs could dodge or not) all while keeping careful management of their MP thanks to Thaumaturge sub abilities and their own MP stances.

It made for a lot of laughable times towards the end of version 1.23. =D

I miss how each class had a "sweet spot" they could stand at for different effects (think of those RPGs that let you set some of your characters in the back line to take less damage or give them a boost to healing, etc.).

Example: Lancer or Dragoon could stand at max distance from an AOE spamming monster and be out of range but still hit all of it's attacks.

Ah, Rain weather with "good" thunder and lightning visual effects and realistic sound.

Nothing like 2.0's version where it makes the screen go completely white for a split second and then a measly... is there even a sound for it now? I certainly can't hear any. =(

Two earring and four ring slots (I don't miss the inventory clutter though).
Nothing like seeing all of that bling. =P