Challenging 4-Man Content Please

[Toodles]

I know plenty of players who miss the glory of Pre-Nerf AK & Pharos.

Can something be done?

For my friends & I who enjoy a good challenge, there's nothing we can do together (for difficulty's sake) outside of locking ourselves out of SCOB once per week.

I've had lots of friends leave the game as a result too... they have zero interest in doing the dungeons even because they're so easy/mindless.

Not a complaint, I just wish for harder 4-man content for fun (I enjoy being challenged, I know not everybody does).

MAKE IT OPTIONAL so people don't feel forced into it who don't enjoy difficulty as I do.

[Chiramu]

The newest 4 man dungeons are not too bad. You could always do Primal extremes as well, lots of peoples still can't get enough DPS on the Arbiters in Ramuh .

[Toodles]

The newest 4 man dungeons are not too bad. You could always do Primal extremes as well, lots of peoples still can't get enough DPS on the Arbiters in Ramuh .

They're still incredibly steam-rollable (mechanically simple too)... especially for a group of adventurer's geared from SCOB.

And no, I don't think stripping off my gear is a viable solution, statistical difficulty doesn't solve for mechanical simplicity.

Primal Extremes are 8-man.

[Chiramu]

Primal Extremes are 8-man.

They are challenging, you are asking for more challenging content. There are still people saying that they have only just cleared Titan extreme now.

[Alukah]

They are not that mechanical simple either, the thing is overgearing has the side effect of letting you ignore or bypass mechanics, you can tank and spank things that would kill you right away if you were synced to the dungeon's ilvl.

What's with the burst of new threads btw?

[DefendPopPunk]

Why stop at 4? I call for challenging 72 man content. Think front lines but with a PVE twist.

[Songi]

They are challenging, you are asking for more challenging content. There are still people saying that they have only just cleared Titan extreme now.

I feel kinda bad for them. I've cleared everything in its current state on a toaster (PS3) without issues. I don't understand why people think this game is hard. I want to see dungeons (4 man) that are tuned for mid-high ilvl geared players that drop respectable loot that can be in conjunction with the current tier (at the time) raid gear.

[Toodles]

They are challenging, you are asking for more challenging content...

Read the Thread Title...

They are not that mechanical simple either...

Kill adds, feed banana.

Avoid red, jump in bubble.

Avoid twister, don't stand in a line.

Idk they're ridiculously simple in my opinion.

A great number of the Dungeon Bosses boil down to 2-3 simplistic procedures (with most having only a single mode or phase), even if you infuse them with statistical difficulty.

[WellFooled]

I loved the old pre-nerf PS, but it didn't love how it destroyed DF groups. Almost always at least one member would abandon the duty on seeing that their roulette gave them PS. However I don't think this would have happened if the dungeon offered rewards that were worth the trouble (PS had the same drops as much easier to complete dungeons).

I too would love harder 4 man content, but I don't agree that it's rewards should be obtainable elsewhere, otherwise the majority of the community won't want to join in. We need to feel that our efforts are rewarded.

[Toodles]

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I've been saying forever that Ex Dungeons should drop the same Dungeon Gear you'd receive in HM but Dyeable & +10-15ilvl's.

Throw in an Allied Seal bonus upon completion & make it a separate roulette & you're golden.