Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Lecreuset]

Only other way I can think of to really nerf our DPS would be to make it so we can't take Blood for Blood or Internal Release. But in return I'd like to be able to use some Conjurer skills. I heard we used to be able to, and I wouldn't mind being able to cast Raise and Cure. Would help keep the party going if I was able to throw out a revive the second the Healer or another DPS went down.

Absolutely. I was slightly disappointed when they switched conjurer for pugilist. I'd love to be back up heals for the party or removing debuffs on people. We probably won't be able to raise in combat since isn't combat raise a trait? I'm not sure so I'm just guessing here..

[Danko]

They didn't say they were nerfing BRD DPS. DPS is not what NEEDS adjusting. BRD DPS is already low relative to other DPS at ilevel90. Lower when songs are up.

BRD's 100% up time when dealing with fight mechanics is what needs to change. There are several ways they could do that without nerfing our potential ("in a vaccum, Standing still") DPS.

All this "BRD is support" nonsense needs to stop. BRD is not a support job. There are no support jobs in FFXIV. It is a Ranged DPS job that can put up one song for a short duration at the sacrifice of DPS.

"But you have Silence!" Yeah, other DPS have stuns, Slow, blind, sleep....blah blah.

They could make it so that we can't use certain WS while running. That would still give us a Ranged melee-like advantage over other ranged DPS because we have no cast times once we stop running, but you can't just run around all day spamming WS while dodging mechanics and we would be affected to a similar degree as other ranged dps by them.

[Lecreuset]

You need to stop partially reading posts and read them all the way or your comprehension sucks

You need to get off your high horse there Mr. Expert.

[Whiz]

We DPS too hard, we get the aggro. There's the risk. Many times I steal the aggro unless I have a song going, just because of how hard I hit. It can be hell on the tank trying to steal the aggro from me, and if I get targeted, I can fold pretty fast depending on the enemy .

I agree that when I'm in a fight that if I start doing to much dps then I get argo

cool story guys...try using the the enemity reducing cd. Also the tanks that you ripped so much hate from all the time must have just sucked. I have a 50 brd with relic that great dps and I never saw a geared tank that's knows what their doing loose hate to a brd unless its at the beginning of a fight and they just blow all their cd's and get raped.

[Dyne_Fellpool]

Only other way I can think of to really nerf our DPS would be to make it so we can't take Blood for Blood or Internal Release. But in return I'd like to be able to use some Conjurer skills. I heard we used to be able to, and I wouldn't mind being able to cast Raise and Cure. Would help keep the party going if I was able to throw out a revive the second the Healer or another DPS went down.

Raise cant be cast in combat, unless you are a CNJ/WHM and have the trait for it.
Cure1 would heal for very very little with our lack of any Mind stat on gear.

So no, this would be a very bad idea.

[RyuDragnier]

cool story bro...try using the the enemity reducing cd. Also the tanks that you ripped so much hate from all the time must have just sucked. I have a 50 brd with relic that great dps and I never saw a geared tank that's knows what their doing loose hate to a brd unless its at the beginning of a fight and they just blow all their cd's and get raped.

It's usually on cooldown. I pop it whenever I see I'm about to take the aggro from the tank, and only on the enemy mobs i don't want to take aggro from (and when the enemy is not near death. If it's near death, I'll take the aggro because it won't live that much longer). Meaning between mob group A and B, there's that moment where I can't toss it out because it's down to the last 40 seconds of cooldown.

[KrayZee]

Standing still for 3s to acquire the damage buff is absurd in a practical case. Rift had a mechanic for the Marksman subspec (turret-style high DPS archery) where you had to stand still for 1.0s to gain a major damage buff. That worked pretty well overall. 1s is a lot different than 3s though .

not in FFXIV, 1 GCD - meh, people could live with that

by all means, stutterstepping shouldn't be much of a problem for a bard, he has enough off-GCD abilities to utilize it.
If I were you guys, I'd prefer (make that "I'd hope for" ) a casting time to my spells, rather than a flat potency/dps nerf

[Whiz]

It's usually on cooldown. I pop it whenever I see I'm about to take the aggro from the tank, and only on the enemy mobs i don't want to take aggro from (and when the enemy is not near death. If it's near death, I'll take the aggro because it won't live that much longer). Meaning between mob group A and B, there's that moment where I can't toss it out because it's down to the last 40 seconds of cooldown.

lol your only 47 running with gimp tanks hit 50 get geared and run some stuff with some geared tanks you won't be ripping agro off anyone.

[Bongcrosby]

Kinda saw it coming.

Not because of damage, but because of how much easier it is compared to others. The mobility combined with good damage makes them the least likely and easiest to avoid aoe pits.

Plus the fact they get the songs which are highly desired, and an on demand silence.

It's just as easy for any class to avoid "aoe pits". Bards don't move faster than any other class.

[KrayZee]

It's just as easy for any class to avoid "aoe pits". Bards don't move faster than any other class.

its not as easy for other classes to do what they are supossed to do effectively though, which is what he was going at
a bards, rather... ridicilously easy, "rotation" also helps with that