Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Ronove]

I'll be honest, I really don't see a problem with bards getting nerfed. Bards are there for support - they are there to buff the group so the group can do more dps/hps as a group via their songs.

The only problem with that is that we are a DPS with support on the side. We get three songs to support our party (heal MP over time, heal TP over time, make it so mages hit harder) and one song to raise the effectiveness of our songs. That's four skills top. If you look at our traits even, all of them are geared towards letting us take down enemies faster. If we really were a support class, wouldn't we have been given traits that help with that? We get like 12 skills to attack (and more if you consider the buffs we peronsally get: all of them aside from the songs raise our attacking output). If we really were only there for support, then why do we have all these attacks, traits, and buffs geared to killing enemies?


I'm hesitant to say this will ruin bard for me. I don't know WHAT SE is planning and the only thing I wish was that we knew what kind of nerfing the bards were going to get. Is it going to be an overall attack nerf or is it going to be something that makes us actually have to move closer to get stronger hits or if we move our attack is lowered until we hold still? How SE worded their response is too vague to really say what that nerf is going to be.

In any case, we aren't a support class. We are a DPS class with support on the side. Unless they overhaul bards/archers and give us more ways to support the party, we are going to be a DPS class.

[Hrist_Valkyrie]

unsubbing today, was nice while it lasted....I don't pay money to have my char nerfed sorry SE you lost me

Nobody is going to miss you.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

Hate to break it to you, but ranged vs melee balance in this game is way too close.

In an mmo designed as such, if your melee is not doing 10-15% more dps on dummies than your ranged, you have a serious problem.

Bards, in fact all classes parse VERY close in dps currently.

So basically you are sad that your class is equal in dps, provides great buffs and has huge mobility AND now you are getting a nerf.

Zone back into reality please...

[Woodberry]

Hate to break it to you, but ranged vs melee balance in this game is way too close.

In an mmo designed as such, if your melee is not doing 10-15% more dps on dummies than your ranged, you have a serious problem.

Bards, in fact all classes parse VERY close in dps currently.

So basically you are sad that your class is equal in dps, provides great buffs and has huge mobility AND now you are getting a nerf.

Zone back into reality please...

No, on dummy parses bards are pretty much last place.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

Being last does not matter if ALL classes are close enough to each other.....

[Alexandermaximillion]

than you so much for the Nerf. Bard use Arrows and can run around. I got a great idea let make Whm have the highest dps and heals where we all can be whm, Or any other Magic user. Heaven forbid, that and spell casting and running around is not good. Have you ever thought that when your a spell caster you need to concentrate for there spells y dont we take that a way where they all round around with no wait time. Just venting cause people who cried where spell casters. Thank you have a NICE DAY

[Anonydort]

Instead of touching bard damage, they need to buff base TP regen and mana regen for classes, and in turn decrease the effectiveness of the songs. Or if not they should spread these capabilities to other classes so that you don't have bard as the only option for raid resource maintenance.

really? SE has already been pushing BRD towards a pure DD role since alpha, and now you want them to get rid of the one thing that makes the job unique? what they should really do is add cast time to our abilities (which changes absolutely nothing, the whole argument that bards have too much mobility is just plain stupid, but at least it'll get people off of our backs) and actually improve our utility to be more bard-like (just make songs auras or something, no mp cost, reduced potency, add more viable tunes for us to sing, i don't know), and not like some Ranger rejects with tacked on songs

[Woodberry]

Being last does not matter if ALL classes are close enough to each other.....

They are a good 15% behind.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

They are a good 15% behind.

Please do not attempt to lie to prove your point, you have only a single class leveled, with incomplete gearing and little to no research done.

[Nazzo]

People who are losing their heads over this should bear in mind: practically within the same breath that they mentioned 'just a little' nerf to bards, they mentioned cross class skills being an issue they are planning on addressing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just nerf BfB to 10% or 15%, down from 20% for non-DRG's, or something of the sort. Yeah, it would hurt MNK a bit too, but MNK dps is already in a pretty good place.

The other stuff they mentioned/talked about redesigning certain aspects of encounters to make them more friendly to melee and less friendly to ranged.Honestly would not be surprised if that was the extent of it.