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  1. #221
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    AegisXI's Avatar
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    Sena Kashiwazaki
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    So, do you people really believe SE just looks at the forums and see ppl saying "Nerf BRDs too broken!" without being tested and just going on forum posts and not have play testers ACTUALLY test this? Why would they feel they need to fix brd if they have not proven this...
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  2. #222
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    Zellata Thorn
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AegisXI View Post
    So, do you people really believe SE just looks at the forums and see ppl saying "Nerf BRDs too broken!" without being tested and just going on forum posts and not have play testers ACTUALLY test this? Why would they feel they need to fix brd if they have not proven this...
    Yes, because we (the playerbase) can easily test who puts out what dps and BRD is only at the top when fight requires a whole lot of movement, like Titan HM. Regardless, I am less concerned about the nerf than I am amused by all the folks who were crying for it - current endgame fights practically require at least one bard for mage ballad (assuming that group is not extremely overgeared for the fight), all those fights also include a dps check...with nerfed bard dps, guess who will have to pick up the slack?
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  3. #223
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    AegisXI's Avatar
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    Sena Kashiwazaki
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    So yes, the player base does tests these sort of things. I am just wondering why would people think SE feel like they want to screw over the BRDs without a reason and making ARC/BRD mains go on a rant...
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  4. #224
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    AideLee's Avatar
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    Naya Na
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SadArtist View Post
    First. I'm not trying to show off or disrespect u guys

    I hope ppl in this thread at least tried coil once

    not just watching videos that someone else playing with bard

    or doing coil run. right?
    Your point?
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  5. #225
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    Zellata's Avatar
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    Zellata Thorn
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AegisXI View Post
    So yes, the player base does tests these sort of things. I am just wondering why would people think SE feel like they want to screw over the BRDs without a reason and making ARC/BRD mains go on a rant...
    Mostly because quite a few game developers think that if a lot of players complain about something, than they have to tweak it regardless of the actual need for a tweak. Whether SE is one of those companies or not remains to be seen.
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  6. #226
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    Volux's Avatar
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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    " While any one of the content can be beaten with any class/job, currently, certain jobs are able to do much more damage than the other jobs due to having access to a certain cross-class abilities. We do have plans to adjust these cross-class abilities to balance out all the jobs. "

    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    If they switch out lancer then we lose invigorate and are really fcked
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  7. #227
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Volux View Post
    If they switch out lancer then we lose invigorate and are really fcked
    Well it would make Paeon a lot more useful. They might as well just get rid of the dmg penalty on Paeon imo.
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  8. #228
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    Andybell256's Avatar
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    Amarant Coral
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Bard is not OP lets get that out the way first, if a bards is topping dps tables you have bad players end of, those who cry about movement or avoiding aoe's and being able to dps still what is your point ???? were ranged >.> use your head we still do awful dps, even in titan bards do not out dps mnk blm smn and drg. Now to the main point as someone that mained bard on 1.0 and in ARR i cannot fathom the need to "nerf" the class re balance yes but to nerf it is pointless what they should do is make bard a...... BARD the current songs honestly really are pointless ballad is only needed for 1 or 2 fights and requiem is only useful with mages, paeon is never used tbh. Give bard a remodeling give us more songs haste, ATK buff for pt, VIT buff, whatever. Then as a pathway from archer give us ranger to satisfy the ranged dps and those who still want to dps with a bow. just my 2 cents from someone doing coil for last 6 weeks with multiple 50's
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  9. #229
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    Pangtao's Avatar
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    Pang Liambear
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    It's because people swear by Bard just because of how it is now. I have several people in my FC that hate all other DPS jobs and only play Bard for the most part, and yes they're pissed.

    Frankly, I used to main Bard, I play Dragoon as my main now (because I wanted a challange with my DPSing), and while I'm not incredibly happy about the nerf, I saw it coming a mile away
    They might not even change DMG, just mechanics. Really no point in speculation, we'll just have to wait and see.
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  10. #230
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    Hooplah Yoo
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Good. They deserved it. Anyone who denies it is either a Bard or a bit brain dead.
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