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  1. #1
    Player
    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebon_Drake View Post
    To all the people crying bards are OP because they can shoot while they move.. sure, but who does that? I don't.
    You should be.

    Also: learn the Jump -> Spin -> Shoot to run at full tilt without losing dps.

    Also, learn to strafe and shoot.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebon_Drake View Post
    It would almost have to be a damage % nerf. 99.9% of the time I'm standing behind the healer outside of any AOE or cone range. I rarely move if at all save for the bosses like stone vigil that pop a circle AOE on top of you. In that case I sidestep just outside of the circle and time lost is negligible at most.
    I do what you do, stand near the healer and just fire from afar. Half of these complaints aren't even about movement, they're the fact that we can stand from afar and dish out constant DPS. The damage nerf wouldn't even help this problem, because we can actually do constant DPS BETTER when there's no fear of grabbing aggro. If anything a damage nerf would just increase the battle length, making it more likely everybody else will die. This won't help other people get into groups, and it won't help the groups once they're in them, it can only hurt the group. More time equals higher odds of making a mistake.
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    Xal Shi'nax
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    <3<3<3<3<3
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    Chrissie's Avatar
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    Chrissie Bir'kie
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    Ill enjoy playing my BRD nerfs or no nerfs. SE just need to make their mind up what role we are gonna be actually playing. Replacing CNJ with MNK for our second class, keeping the healer limit break......just sound to me like they haven't got a clue how to solve it. Maybe now all the scrubs that have complained so much (yet are all secretly levelling BRD's) can be happy now.
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    Player Hrist_Valkyrie's Avatar
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    Ingrid Randgrior
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissie View Post
    Ill enjoy playing my BRD nerfs or no nerfs. SE just need to make their mind up what role we are gonna be actually playing. Replacing CNJ with MNK for our second class, keeping the healer limit break......just sound to me like they haven't got a clue how to solve it. Maybe now all the scrubs that have complained so much (yet are all secretly levelling BRD's) can be happy now.
    I don't think you know what the word scrub means.
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    Character
    Aurora Night
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    I don't understand the point of the nerf, it is bad enough we share the healers LB now we are getting nerfed, the class/job already doesn't do very much damage and I know for a fact is low to bottom of the DPS charts so why nerf us? I figured the 20% reduce from playing songs was bad enough but if we do even less damage then I won't want to play that class any more and I can see a lot of others wouldn't want to either. SE should just leave the class alone, we already suck enough DPS wise there is no need to make it worse for us.
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    AegisXI's Avatar
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    Sena Kashiwazaki
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amenty View Post
    I don't understand the point of the nerf, it is bad enough we share the healers LB now we are getting nerfed, the class/job already doesn't do very much damage and I know for a fact is low to bottom of the DPS charts so why nerf us? I figured the 20% reduce from playing songs was bad enough but if we do even less damage then I won't want to play that class any more and I can see a lot of others wouldn't want to either. SE should just leave the class alone, we already suck enough DPS wise there is no need to make it worse for us.
    Says the 25 archer
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AegisXI View Post
    Says the 25 archer
    Way to throw in an argumentum ad hominem. The fact of the matter is that BRD currently IS the weakest on the DPS charts. The reason it appears to be strong is due to how easy it is to play BRD.

    However if you have an expert MNK and an expert BRD, certainly the MNK will have to be more skilled to be called an "expert" but as a result will deal more damage.

    As a BRD myself I don't care about the nerfs; all jobs will get nerfed and buffed at some point I'm sure. Considering BRDs are valued for their silence, songs, mobility and steady DPS in specific situations I can't see BRDs being excluded from content.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Way to throw in an argumentum ad hominem. The fact of the matter is that BRD currently IS the weakest on the DPS charts. The reason it appears to be strong is due to how easy it is to play BRD.
    They are the weakest dps however the way a lot of fights like titan work, can push them up a few spots. A bard should not be bottom dps in fights like titan, especially not when there is a dragoon in party that buffs their dmg by 10%. They should have a mid spot or higher in those fights and that is just not what SE intended when they balanced the class. Bards offer more than just pure dps while other classes offer only dps, thats why bard dps is supposed to be the lowest but it doesnt always work like that.

    Because of that nerfing bards dps is the wrong way, it would crush them in tank and spank fights, where they are already pulling lowest dps. The smartest route is to make them affected by movement like other classes. If thats not happening bards will always be either too weak or too powerful, depending on the fight.
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    Character
    Pomf Pomf
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    They are the weakest dps however the way a lot of fights like titan work, can push them up a few spots.
    i can tell you that titan is the only fight on it own style.
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