Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[pandabearcat]

I find it more amusing people were bitching about a nerf in PVE content, I mean this doesn't help anyone other than letting other DPS stroke their Ego's and say that they do more DPS now, poor healers now your job will be even harder because now bards won't be so quick to use their mana songs since they would take even more DPS reduction.

Um, if bards have less dps, they will be MORE inclined to mana song because the raid DPS loss is lower.

Now, if they baked that into the song instead, then yes, they would be less inclined to manasong if it turns out it reduces damage by 30% instead of 20%.

[Psychosiz]

Oh if BRD gets nerfed I will just quit, simple as that. They plan on making the bard a useless class since our songs are the only real use we have in end game, then people trying to level up a bard will have even more of an issue, I'm not QQing as I couldn't really care less as I am only a casual gamer and the underlining truth is I don't want to focus on another class I liked my ranged pew pew Bard, so yeah way to go SE you managed to take the enjoyment out of the one class I enjoyed playing give yourself a round of applause.

Sadly this is going to be the voice of a great majority of bard players. Either they quit or reroll something else. Remember we are all a small minority on these forums. The casual player constitutes the majority of people playing this game and if the nerf is significant or noticeable in a way which effects most bards success, I suspect an exodus from the class and a possible impact in player retention.

[Blaste]

Sadly this is going to be the voice of a great majority of bard players. Either they quit or reroll something else. Remember we are all a small minority on these forums. The casual player constitutes the majority of people playing this game and if the nerf is significant or noticeable in a way which effects most bards success, I suspect an exodus from the class and a possible impact in player retention.

Well going by this, can groups manage without the BRD class? are their workarounds for endgame?

[Zellata]

Um, if bards have less dps, they will be MORE inclined to mana song because the raid DPS loss is lower.

Now, if they baked that into the song instead, then yes, they would be less inclined to manasong if it turns out it reduces damage by 30% instead of 20%.

It doesn't work that way - we pop mage ballad when healers need it for as long as they need it, assuming that we have mana to do so obviously. It's not something we are inclined or not inclined to do, it's something we simply have to do when needed.

[Whiz]

I believe everyone is blowing the statement out of proportion. Yoshi just said the Bard is just "a little" too op because they don't have movement penalties like the other range classes. I'm sure they are not going to nerf the dps. They will probably greatly lower the bards accuracy when they are in movement or just don't allow you to shoot arrows while moving. Very easy fix and it shouldn't affect dps just makes them like the other range classes so you have to stand still to dps.

[RyuDragnier]

YAY BARD NERF!!!

I can then spam my attacks all day long without having to watch enmity meter or flashing orange triangles and worry about taking threat from tank if I'm not careful!

WOOOO!!

Thinking on it, I do like this. If a Bard goes all out in any encounter, we're very likely to steal all the aggro unless Army's Paeon or Mage's Ballad is playing. Even with Quelling Strikes on, I've stolen the aggro from the tank often. Depending on how we're nerfed for DPS, this could become a very good thing. If it's just a damage %, our aggro meter won't build as fast and we'll be home free to go all out more often.

If it's just a mobility nerf, meaning rooted in place for some moves, charge up for others, with a few left over with neither done, probably on the GCD, sorry to say for those of you applauding the nerf for the Bards, we'll still be picked over them just because we can still spam the moves that AREN'T being nerfed by mobility.

[RyuDragnier]

Actually, in the end, we'll still probably get picked over other DPS classes no matter the nerf. Damage nerf? Our DPS is still constant, and we will take less aggro, making us a safe DPS to help kill things. Mobility Nerf? Odds are at least one move will not be affected by this, leading to us spamming that move. Even IF all our moves get root or charge-up for them, we'll still be out of range for most enemies and most boss moves. Thinking on it, this nerf may end up not effecting our place in parties at all.

[Ebon_Drake]

Actually, in the end, we'll still probably get picked over other DPS classes no matter the nerf. Damage nerf? Our DPS is still constant, and we will take less aggro, making us a safe DPS to help kill things. Mobility Nerf? Odds are at least one move will not be affected by this, leading to us spamming that move. Even IF all our moves get root or charge-up for them, we'll still be out of range for most enemies and most boss moves. Thinking on it, this nerf may end up not effecting our place in parties at all.

It would almost have to be a damage % nerf. 99.9% of the time I'm standing behind the healer outside of any AOE or cone range. I rarely move if at all save for the bosses like stone vigil that pop a circle AOE on top of you. In that case I sidestep just outside of the circle and time lost is negligible at most.

To all the people crying bards are OP because they can shoot while they move.. sure, but who does that? I don't. Mayyyyyybe on bosses like sunken temple with all of those crazy key things popping laser beams like there's no tomorrow. Mobility nerf for that? LOL ok, have fun smn and blm. ^_^


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You should be.

Also: learn the Jump -> Spin -> Shoot to run at full tilt without losing dps.

Also, learn to strafe and shoot.

haha! I did all of those all the way up to running FlayBrox for the 100th time. finally I was like ok, this is too much work even for my ADD, I'll just stand by the healer and DPS. (and look at her bum if she's hot )

[pandabearcat]

To all the people crying bards are OP because they can shoot while they move.. sure, but who does that? I don't.

You should be.

Also: learn the Jump -> Spin -> Shoot to run at full tilt without losing dps.

Also, learn to strafe and shoot.

[RyuDragnier]

It would almost have to be a damage % nerf. 99.9% of the time I'm standing behind the healer outside of any AOE or cone range. I rarely move if at all save for the bosses like stone vigil that pop a circle AOE on top of you. In that case I sidestep just outside of the circle and time lost is negligible at most.

I do what you do, stand near the healer and just fire from afar. Half of these complaints aren't even about movement, they're the fact that we can stand from afar and dish out constant DPS. The damage nerf wouldn't even help this problem, because we can actually do constant DPS BETTER when there's no fear of grabbing aggro. If anything a damage nerf would just increase the battle length, making it more likely everybody else will die. This won't help other people get into groups, and it won't help the groups once they're in them, it can only hurt the group. More time equals higher odds of making a mistake.