Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Nysneirdre]

Good. They deserved it. Anyone who denies it is either a Bard or a bit brain dead.

IMO the brain dead people are the ones that typically post the one liners that equate to.......ha ha you got nerfed and deserved it. Like I said before, funny that they didn't see this alleged problem with their beta testing but after release with all the rage posts about it. Typical MMO behavior of others that want to drag people down.

[Phai]

Good. They deserved it. Anyone who denies it is either a Bard or a bit brain dead.

U realy give Lancers a bad name, god ur boring...

[Purutzil]

I'd say giving them rooting would work though I know some like the 'slippery' play of being able to move and shoot. Most of the nerf hopefully just lowers there damage a bit and maybe giving less penalties to song, say drop the dps they do overall (NOT TOO MUCH) and reduce the penalties for using a song to say 10%. Just stuff to let them keep the support without destroying their dps completely.

Again, I do feel they should be lower on dps, but I don't think its right either if they are non-existant either. The support they do really boosts the group as is so even IF they were the lowest dps they still provide such strong benefits that outweigh it, I feel far enough that they shouldn't be up near the top in dps. I have no problem with them excelling in certain fights, just its silly seeing them doing such crazy work with minimal effort AND able to provide support that is highly valuable to a group.

[Nooblet]

If they nerf the damage enough to where 24man's use only 1 bard or its wasted spot.. then it becomes a problem saying they'll always use 1, and think thats ok.

[MalcolmReynolds]

IMO the brain dead people are the ones that typically post the one liners that equate to.......ha ha you got nerfed and deserved it. Like I said before, funny that they didn't see this alleged problem with their beta testing but after release with all the rage posts about it. Typical MMO behavior of others that want to drag people down.

You do realize the changes to bard were made right towards the end of beta testing, right? They were not this powerful before, archers cried, SE buffed them, then the game was released. Now they're trying to find a middle ground.

[Ricauer]

Playing a DRG as my main and I have a level 50 bard as well... 100% uptime is quite strong compared to melee or BLM.

[Lecreuset]

Fixed it for you.



Nerfing one class is much easier than changing mechanics around for every other one. The potential for balance problems with the latter is very high compared to just one nerf. And the demand for bard will still be there, so I don't understand what your complaint is.

They already are going to make all the fights easier for melee. So that is in a way changing something for the other classes

[MalcolmReynolds]

They already are going to make all the fights easier for melee. So that is in a way changing something for the other classes

Am I'm very disappointed with that. Don't think that's the right direction to take. The game as a whole needs to be more challenging, not less.

[Yiell]

how about -20% dps when using songs?

[SinSilverwing]

Honestly, im not at endgame yet. Im close. But im putting my two cents out there on this. As people are flipping their sh*t before anything has been done. I play a black mage, in early i saw a nice spread of classes and rare would i see the same class back to back. I also played in beta for a while but never saw archers in action so i cant comment how they were before.

As for where I am, I have seen how all the classes work. I may not play them but i have seen how they at least work out. I do see people calling for bards a lot in end game zones. Which makes it harder for other DPS classes to get in if a ranged spot is needed. (Yes i know BM is wanted for their limit break).

But as im doing some of the last dungeons im even wanting a Bard cause i know if im forced to move and loose my DPS they can keep it up. They are highly valuable as of right now for what they currently do. They have the benifits of the melee being a DoW with the benifits of a DoM being in the ranged catagory. To me this makes them rather OP.

- Physical class
-- No cast time for abilities so they can keep on the move

- Ranged/Magic Class
-- Out of the range of most Cones and other AoEs that are not targeted to a character from range.

- Bard
-- Their songs are incredibly useful even with the loss to their DPS %

- LB
-- if for some reason both main and off healer take a dirt nap and the lvl 3 LB is up, it saves from a wipe. Which is sorely hated.

Im not saying there are no draw backs but that their pros outweigh their cons for a group. Thus raising that people would want at least one spot for them in all end game content. I have not gotten to end game, im still finishing that nice level grind. But i understand Titan HM is a pain for casters cause they have to keep on the move.

Instead of flipping out over something you dont know about. How about cooling the jets, waiting to see how this 'nerf' is done. Cause all i think will be done is making them have to be aware of Mechanics from what was said about that. And if overkilled then yes rage and foam at the mouth by all means.