Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[MalcolmReynolds]

They already are going to make all the fights easier for melee. So that is in a way changing something for the other classes

Am I'm very disappointed with that. Don't think that's the right direction to take. The game as a whole needs to be more challenging, not less.

[EasymodeX]

I would say switch Straight Shot to a casttime ability, or switch WB and VB to casted abilities. Shrug, or all 3. Having roughly 2-3 out of 8 abilities require stationary positioning should be fine. After all, Bards are busy pressing other utility buttons.

Sidenote: after reviewing a few times, I think 2 or less hardcasts would be appropriate. Having SS, WB, and VB all be casted abilities is too much, IMO. So either the two DOTs or just SS.

Edit: that said, an actual direct DPS reduction wouldn't be too bad if they also reduced the damage penalty on the bard songs to like 10% instead of 20%.

[mythicrose]

I would say switch Straight Shot to a casttime ability, or switch WB and VB to casted abilities. Shrug, or all 3. Having roughly 2-3 out of 8 abilities require stationary positioning should be fine. After all, Bards are busy pressing other utility buttons.

Sidenote: after reviewing a few times, I think 2 or less hardcasts would be appropriate. Having SS, WB, and VB all be casted abilities is too much, IMO. So either the two DOTs or just SS.

Edit: that said, an actual direct DPS reduction wouldn't be too bad if they also reduced the damage penalty on the bard songs to like 10% instead of 20%.

Pretty much what I had said a week or two ago (SS cast time). No need to nerf the actual damage, but making them more in line with other ranged dps.

[EasymodeX]

Tbh it will be interesting to see how SE handles the first notable class balance change.

[Wolfhammer]

Well I'm not going to scream and shout at the moon yet as none of us know in what form the nerf will take. I'm a gnats nut sack away from lvl 46 so soon I'll be hopping on the treadmill so I cant comment about end game..

I'll wait and see what happens.. If I hate it I can always re-roll, or even leave the game..

One thing I can say however is "congrats to all the whiners, you just made your own lives harder".... Kind of balances out when I think of it that way.

[AegisXI]

So, do you people really believe SE just looks at the forums and see ppl saying "Nerf BRDs too broken!" without being tested and just going on forum posts and not have play testers ACTUALLY test this? Why would they feel they need to fix brd if they have not proven this...

[Zellata]

So, do you people really believe SE just looks at the forums and see ppl saying "Nerf BRDs too broken!" without being tested and just going on forum posts and not have play testers ACTUALLY test this? Why would they feel they need to fix brd if they have not proven this...

Yes, because we (the playerbase) can easily test who puts out what dps and BRD is only at the top when fight requires a whole lot of movement, like Titan HM. Regardless, I am less concerned about the nerf than I am amused by all the folks who were crying for it - current endgame fights practically require at least one bard for mage ballad (assuming that group is not extremely overgeared for the fight), all those fights also include a dps check...with nerfed bard dps, guess who will have to pick up the slack?

[AegisXI]

So yes, the player base does tests these sort of things. I am just wondering why would people think SE feel like they want to screw over the BRDs without a reason and making ARC/BRD mains go on a rant...

[Zellata]

So yes, the player base does tests these sort of things. I am just wondering why would people think SE feel like they want to screw over the BRDs without a reason and making ARC/BRD mains go on a rant...

Mostly because quite a few game developers think that if a lot of players complain about something, than they have to tweak it regardless of the actual need for a tweak. Whether SE is one of those companies or not remains to be seen.

[Andybell256]

Bard is not OP lets get that out the way first, if a bards is topping dps tables you have bad players end of, those who cry about movement or avoiding aoe's and being able to dps still what is your point ???? were ranged >.> use your head we still do awful dps, even in titan bards do not out dps mnk blm smn and drg. Now to the main point as someone that mained bard on 1.0 and in ARR i cannot fathom the need to "nerf" the class re balance yes but to nerf it is pointless what they should do is make bard a...... BARD the current songs honestly really are pointless ballad is only needed for 1 or 2 fights and requiem is only useful with mages, paeon is never used tbh. Give bard a remodeling give us more songs haste, ATK buff for pt, VIT buff, whatever. Then as a pathway from archer give us ranger to satisfy the ranged dps and those who still want to dps with a bow. just my 2 cents from someone doing coil for last 6 weeks with multiple 50's