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  1. #231
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    neoreturn's Avatar
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    Neo Anderson
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    At least SE realize bard op. good job. If bard is a support job, it's DPS should be between tank and DPS. In dummy full DPS test, bard DPS is still too high.
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  2. #232
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    Leera Myr
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    Archer Lv 50
    I still can't queue in as a support
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  3. #233
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    Bardo Phor
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    If bard is a support job, it's DPS should be between tank and DPS.
    If Bard is a support job, where's the support role in Duty Finder?
    : /

    Bard is a DD Job with support in lieu of a DD limit break.
    There is no such thing as a support job.

    Since SMN gets battle-res and their pets can eat large attacks such that the rest of the party doesn't have to move to avoid them (such as ADS laser), and yet they still have a DD limit break, does that mean we need to nerf their damage below Bard now?
    : /
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  4. #234
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    Whiz Lightyear
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Sad everyone is crying nerf lol. Only thing they need to do is make bard like the rest of the ranged classes by making the need to stand still to dps that's all problem fixed.
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    Last edited by Whiz; 10-22-2013 at 08:05 PM.

  5. #235
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    Leera Myr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiz View Post
    Sad everyone is crying nerf lol. Only thing they need to do is make bard like the rest of the ranged classes by make the need to stand still to dps that's all problem fixed.
    I like the idea of a reduced damage done when on the move but gaining it back while standing still for like 3 seconds or something kinda like the talent that Survival Hunters in WoW had. We're still archers after all and not casters. Would make sense that you can't hit the critical points of an enemy since you're busy dodging stuff and on the move.

    It'd also be great if bard actually were more of a support roll than what we have now. A singing ranger
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  6. #236
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    Phai Mui
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiz View Post
    Sad everyone is crying nerf lol. Only thing they need to do is make bard like the rest of the ranged classes by make the need to stand still to dps that's all problem fixed.
    I have to ask, couse i dont undertand this fully i think, maybe couse im not in coil or some language barrier, but 1; isent making cast time on Bard same as nerfing his dps? 2; if we are one of the lower dps in endgame would not that just put us further down the list? 3; and to the ppl claiming support role, where in 4 man content do u see support fit in?

    I am in for everything that is balancing, i dont mind it at all.. But to me it seems like balancing classes up against unbalanced content.. Melee suffer to much, why not fix the real issue?
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  7. #237
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    They're already adjusting the fights to make it less harder for melee, Phai.
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    Last edited by Lecreuset; 10-22-2013 at 04:48 AM.

  8. #238
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    Phai Mui
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecreuset View Post
    They're already adjusting the fights to make it melee friendly, Phai.
    Well that is realy good news and the way to go imo
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  9. #239
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    Canddi Kane
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Hopefully this nerf isn't on par with the ranger nerf from FFXI. That killed the job for years.
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  10. #240
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    Malcolm Reynolds
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tampa_Black View Post
    I love this game, but am done if they nerf my main. Our damage is sheeeit and its getting nerfed? I will not put 1 more hour into grinding for a toon that will be gimped. SE has had 5+ years and 2 release to figure this out. SMH. Little beeotches and cry babies always ruin my fun being the most in demand dps class for the sake of balancing things out me me me me me.
    Fixed it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then wouldn't it be easier to just adjust the mobility for the melee classes so they'd be more viable and accepted? One nerf on a Bard's DPS won't change that they're wanted for songs and constant DPS.
    Nerfing one class is much easier than changing mechanics around for every other one. The potential for balance problems with the latter is very high compared to just one nerf. And the demand for bard will still be there, so I don't understand what your complaint is.
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    Last edited by MalcolmReynolds; 10-22-2013 at 05:43 AM.
    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

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