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  1. #1
    Player
    Aricori's Avatar
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    Akame Asaan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    The damage nerf I feel will not be significant and will not affect our demand in groups. Those who are quitting because they feel they won't be number one are being really petty. My expectations when I began this game was that bard would not be top of the damage, but brought along for their utility and that is the main reason they are invited to Coil from my limited understanding of the raid (I have only been to Turn 2). While our mobility is advantageous, our silence and songs are what makes us desirable. I do feel that monks and dragoons do need a boost in their DPS. They lack the utility of ranged classes as a whole really; no back up heals, resurrection or crowd control abilities means they should be topping the DPS charts. While Monk and Dragoon do have some utility, it is not nearly as desirable as the ranged classes, let alone bard.
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    xnonamex's Avatar
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    Character
    Baltais Elfs
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Well i do see why this happened. Eventually on lvl 50 (dunno about coils, haven't had the chance to venture in there, although i have the gear) everyone is looking for bards. The crazyest is when ppl start looking for all bard dps+1drg for the LB.

    I dunno about the pure damage output for the bards since i have not played it. But the reason why bards are so demanded is clear:
    1) they are ranged dps - so they can stay clear of the danger fairly easy in most cases
    2) their attacks are instant like melee dps

    ...continued in next post (char limit)
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    xnonamex's Avatar
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    Character
    Baltais Elfs
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 60
    this combined with the known issues for the caster classes makes the most survivable constant dps output class, because they can keep dpsing all the way without much thought to position. For example in titan fight: casters can't cast when they need to dodge stuff, melee can't max out their dps because they need to avoid, thus not getting the correct position (side, back) when they need and letting the buffs just tick out unused sometimes...

    ofc it is so that bard is not the highest pure dps class, but it is the one whose dps is less affected from the mechanics of the fight...

    I am not saying that is bad... just saying that all out bard party requests were getting ridiculous.
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    Lord Satyr
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    Malboro
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    Archer Lv 70
    I knew it was coming. I knew I would be bummed/pissed if I kept playing bard. Now my Whm is almost 50 hurray!
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    You know what would be great?

    Lowering damage, but making straighter shot either reduce or eliminate next SS cost as well as autocrit. Kinda like how BLM procs remove mana cost.

    I'm tired of running out of TP when I get "lucky".
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    Kio Kurokami
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    So, the exact quote is "We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight."

    That doesn't mean there is going to be a damage nerf. They may just end up making some of your skills actually have a cast time, or something similar. All of you are whining for no reason.
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    Character
    Wood Berry
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiokin View Post
    So, the exact quote is "We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight."

    That doesn't mean there is going to be a damage nerf. They may just end up making some of your skills actually have a cast time, or something similar. All of you are whining for no reason.
    Which is why I am fine with it. Just bring up BRD stationary DPS to match the other classes and give HS/SS a cast time. Heck, they can bring up their DPS by just improving the gearing.
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    Eqoa Psychokillaz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 60
    I love this game, but am done if they nerf my main. Our damage is sheeeit and its getting nerfed? I will not put 1 more hour into grinding for a toon that will be gimped. SE has had 5+ years and 2 release to figure this out. SMH. Little beeotches and cry babies always ruin MMO's.
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    Last edited by Tampa_Black; 10-21-2013 at 08:37 PM.

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    Malcolm Reynolds
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tampa_Black View Post
    I love this game, but am done if they nerf my main. Our damage is sheeeit and its getting nerfed? I will not put 1 more hour into grinding for a toon that will be gimped. SE has had 5+ years and 2 release to figure this out. SMH. Little beeotches and cry babies always ruin my fun being the most in demand dps class for the sake of balancing things out me me me me me.
    Fixed it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then wouldn't it be easier to just adjust the mobility for the melee classes so they'd be more viable and accepted? One nerf on a Bard's DPS won't change that they're wanted for songs and constant DPS.
    Nerfing one class is much easier than changing mechanics around for every other one. The potential for balance problems with the latter is very high compared to just one nerf. And the demand for bard will still be there, so I don't understand what your complaint is.
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    Last edited by MalcolmReynolds; 10-22-2013 at 05:43 AM.
    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

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    Lecreuset's Avatar
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    Character
    Leera Myr
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds View Post
    Fixed it for you.



    Nerfing one class is much easier than changing mechanics around for every other one. The potential for balance problems with the latter is very high compared to just one nerf. And the demand for bard will still be there, so I don't understand what your complaint is.
    They already are going to make all the fights easier for melee. So that is in a way changing something for the other classes
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