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    Aedra's Avatar
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggronaught View Post
    PS: DPS kiting is the worse advice I can give, they usually end up dying, its better not to touch adds and let tank kite.
    The only reason DPS kiting is dead because your healer doesn't remove Heavy on them. And if your group consist of 2 melee DPS, please tell me you want a tank to kite.


    Though, as I stated, it's really on Healer and Tank whether they know how many stacks they can take so strategies change depend on both of 'em.

    If you go with a very geared DPS with a paladin tank, you can even just burn boss, ignore all adds and aoe them down at once with PLD pop Hallowed Ground to survive grude 10+ stack in one time and boss is dead.
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    Last edited by Aedra; 10-19-2013 at 08:58 PM.

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    Deathbyfuture's Avatar
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    Ginger Snap
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Wow, and here I was thinking this was like the easiest boss ever.....but maybe it helps that I've only done this in full DL with my bf who is also full DL brd? But we have had a very easy time with BRD kiting adds and killing them while I (DRG) dps the main boss the whole time and the healer just focuses on tank while they use their cooldown moves. I use LB as soon as the 2nd bar pops then finish him off using all my dps boosts. easy win. easier than AK imo. but maybe I've been lucky with getting good tanks? who knows
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    Aedra's Avatar
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    You can do this in full AF. There are few points you need to be aware of

    1) Healer and Tank have to know how many stacks they can handle, and let DPS know.
    2) DPS need to keep those stacks in mind, set focus target on boss so you can see stacks, and kite the rest until everyone grudge is used. If party is low on DPS, then most of the time you'll have only tank on the boss.
    3) Healer PoV: Esuna/Leeches heavy on kiter. Precast healing for everyone grudge when the stack is at maximum for tank's HP can handle.

    Strategy changed depend on how geared you are. Right now, we ignore all adds and focus boss only. AoE when they reach tank and stop when pass maximum stack. Still working on speed run, but my best time right now is 19min.

    My 1st WP run on 1st day of Early Access (via Duty Finder).



    You should be glad that there are some changes after Early Access. Pudding boss was the hardest fight for WP in Early Access but now is a joke...
    - Pudding: lower boss's HP.
    - Tonberry King: Small tonberry no longer spawn after big one spawn.
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    Godlafell's Avatar
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    Infrared Laser
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 49
    Clearly TBK is bugged and needs to be reported.

    I'll make the thread on reddit, pls upvote.
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    Brutallyn Brutalone
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    screw stacks, i've run this place like a dozen times. Let 1 ranged dps kill adds as much as he can, other dps on the boss with the tank.
    when king starts to cast his big hit, use some defense cooldown as a tank, and make sure the healers tops you off before the hit lands.(dont use all your cooldowns at the first hit. spread them out of course, hell i usually take the first with nothing extra..)
    Hardest he hit me was like 4K. I'm a warrior though, so not that much i can click. Pld can bring that hit down a lot more i think.

    Brut
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    Tyrenne Tohka
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    Before the start of the fight check the tank's Max health and use this nifty little algorithm:
    take the max health of the tank divide it by 1000, take only the integer value (anything before the ',') and substract one. That will be the max number of stacks of rancor you want per everybody's grouge.
    Then one of the DPS will kill adds while making sure to keep that rancor stack below or equal to the max nunmber of stacks your tank can deal with.
    (ex: Tank have 4400 health, he will be only able to not die with 3 stacks, with a competent healer offcourse )

    Note: Shift-F is your friend here... the adds killing DPS needs to focus on the king to be able to tell how many stacks the king has.
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    Laiyenu's Avatar
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Here I made this just for you.

    http://youtu.be/8683V667N_k
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    I'm the Bloodgaru Queen.

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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    There isn't a lot the Tank and Healer need to do other than watch the bosses phases. DPS one can chip away at the bosses HP while the other usually the ranged takes care of the adds. If you have a Bard it becomes easy for them because they are very mobile. They might get hit with the odd slow still so be ready to esuna them.
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    Angelwatch's Avatar
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    Silke Drezail
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've gained a few hundred HP since killing him last but my general thoughts go like this:

    2 Stacks or less: If I'm topped off, I can ignore the Grudge
    3 Stacks: If I'm topped off a Defensive Cooldown helps but isn't required if the healer knows what he/she is doing
    4 Stacks: I need to be topped off and using a Defensive Cooldown
    5 Stacks or more: Hallowed Ground (the invulnerable one) or I'm dead

    Once you know how many stacks you can safely take with and without cooldowns, it becomes a lot easier.
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    King Brohemoth
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Yeah, you don't need an overly-complicated strategy. Just have one damage dealer (preferably bard > blm > smn > drg > mnk) kill the adds one at a time. Don't kite them around or try to gather them up to AoE them or anything. Just kill one, then move on to the next. Shouldn't even have to worry about counting stacks since they can't kill them too fast that way, and you won't get hit by that gravity attack when you kill them quick enough (Which should be easy, since they're so weak). Obviously prioritize ones closer to tank, and get any that get on tank off him asap. Do this until slashers, then go after king. The other damage dealer just goes all out on the king the entire time. LB at 2 or when you can kill him with it.

    Tank just has to not derp. Use cooldowns when he's going to EG you. Hallow Ground when you need to, like if you got overwhelmed and/or adds need to get AoE'd down. Warrior just have a lot of HP. Healer top tank off before EG hits him, then heal him up after it hits. If you can get off a stone skin and/or shield bubble off before the grudge that would be awesome, and might be necessary when you're with a super derp low HP all str stat allotted tank.

    I've never even wiped once so long as people stick to the strat (damage dealer on adds going full derp and trying to kite and aoe, getting Nym'd insta-killed, is the usual problem). And I've played with some pretty undergeared dudes in DF.
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