Turn 5 Twister Strategies Compendium

[SonyaArin]

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To summarize on Ceol's points:

Obviously some of these seem obvious, but it would be good to get video proof.

Yup! Again, if any particular video posted isn't convincing, I'm open to having it removed as an example, and if it isn't clear I'm asking for videos from other FCs too who are willing.

On your trio of thoughts above, #2 is the one that gets me thinking the most in agreement. For #3 though, I should clarify a few things, as 'Twister phase' isn't just Twister phase.

1) Tank still getting nuked with Death Sentence, no huge surprise.
2) Twisters on a timer.
3) Dreadknights come down (you can see one in the end of my video) also on a timer. When a knight comes down, Twintania will perma-stun a random person until that Knight dies. The add will walk towards that person and if they reach them, the person is insta-killed. Killing the add releases them.

Off-hand, the phase seems to be a simple 'dodge twisters while managing add space', because they can come off CD at the same time, so you can stumble a little if you're all trying to get near-ish (esp. melee + OT) the add while Twister is about to cast.

I'll try to get some videos that will help answer you set of questions above when Turn 5 comes up and see if there is some hidden correlations on more obscure things ('4 targets at random' actually being 'aggro targets 3-6' or something like that).

[Ceol]

Off-hand, the phase seems to be a simple 'dodge twisters while managing add space', because they can come off CD at the same time, so you can stumble a little if you're all trying to get near-ish (esp. melee + OT) the add while Twister is about to cast.

Ohh, I see. If Twister were just a "be running when she finishes her cast!" mechanic, would that phase be pretty easy? One shot spike damage, multiple people targeted with AoE circles they need to run out of, things that stun party members that need to be killed before a certain point... Sounds an awful lot like Titan HM.

[wlakiz]

3) Dreadknights come down (you can see one in the end of my video) also on a timer. When a knight comes down, Twintania will perma-stun a random person until that Knight dies. The add will walk towards that person and if they reach them, the person is insta-killed. Killing the add releases them.

Would Twintania still cast twister while perma stunning that particular player?

[Eronn]

Would Twintania still cast twister while perma stunning that particular player?

Twister is still cast while players are stunned by Dreadknights. I will look for an answer in our videos to if the stunned player can be targeted with a Twister.

[Azari-Vie]

(Sorry for the double post, but I felt this belonged in its own thing.)
2. Has there been any boss in this game whose dodge mechanic initiates at the end of its cast instead of its beginning?

I believe the ADS ballast attack does this. He has a cast bar, and once the cast completes then he starts laying down the red aoe circle.

Maybe that's not the same thing though.

[Catapult]

The Living Scourge.

I would like to see what happens if at least one of the three Scourges is not killed at the start.
Seeing how they are typically knocked out at the beginning seems a little too convenient for the hardest boss in the game. This is in an environment where previous turns of the coil have had rather important responsibilities for a second tank. (Pass-the-parcel on ADS and separation-management on Cadeceus.)
It is also not unheard-of for lesser mobs to interact with a boss. Examples are Cadeceus' slugs, Suparna & Chirada, and the Tonberry King's rancorous army. Twintania's Scourges may follow this trend. It may be that the Twisters will target the Scourge if one is still alive (or even Conflagration for that matter). Or perhaps one less Twister spawns for each Scourge alive.

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Have wondered this as well, have been looking through old FF's for possible solutions. Twister is one of the abilities that has been recurring throughout the series. And one thing that stood out is that in FFIX to learn the twister ability you have to "eat" a red dragon. Perhaps if one of the adds doesn't die she doesn't gain the ability?

[ThatDataGuy]

Looking at the two videos, the first one appears to place the twister where the mouse cursor is when twister begins casting, while the second one appears to be out of bounds to place the twister anywhere in the arena which kills the player. It is possible that the mouse cursor position plays a role in twister's placement as if placing an aoe ability on the ground?

Edit: on second look it looks like it may possibly necessary to click on the ground

[Xbob42]

Looking at the two videos, the first one appears to place the twister where the mouse cursor is when twister begins casting, while the second one appears to be out of bounds to place the twister anywhere in the arena which kills the player. It is possible that the mouse cursor position plays a role in twister's placement as if placing an aoe ability on the ground?

Edit: on second look it looks like it may possibly necessary to click on the ground

...You realize PS3 players don't have mouse cursors, right?

[ThatDataGuy]

...You realize PS3 players don't have mouse cursors, right?

They may not, but they have a way to aim aoe targeted areas on the ground, it would be the same idea. This is easy to test either way.